Kai and Amelia -Grey’s Anatomy

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Wouldn’t Kathleen as a Psychiatrist would have noticed that her son Lucas has ADHD? I mean she should have noticed it (maybe every person who has a medical degree) could/should.
So I’m more by Nancy (who is a OB I think) or maybe Liz.

As much as I want to send see Neve Campbell again because you would ever seen liz with Amelia I got the impression in season 9 when we met her originally her kids weren't old enough to be a doctor yet because of the fact that they were running around telling people that they were excited to have a brown baby in the family. Because of that I always got the impression that they were there maybe six or under because I just can't imagine kids who are 10 or older going around doing that

If she has 5 (the 4 sisters) or maybe even 6 kids it could have been the younger ones like Lucas would have been 13/14 (if he is 25 now) the others could have been like 4/6/8/10

is it know in which order the she’s were born? Was Derek was the oldest and Amelia the youngest and the others in the middle?

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We've been blessed with a couple of great pod appearances this week. One each from Cat and ER. Loved ER's ep with Drew, always fun to listen to them on Drew's pod. Also loved Cat's in depth ep with Emily. Very deep and nuanced as usual from Cat. Both eps are worthy repeaters in my book.

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Who is this random?

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Who is this random?

it’s the account i used to share the reel, i don’t know why someone bothered to share it like they’re achieving something lol

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Who is this random?

Probably one of those troll accounts. No profile pic & no followers, lol.

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Thank you for sharing. Love that the pic they used is from the Saturne Magazine shoot. Is there or will there be a full vid of the ep? I'd love it if there isn't one out yet. Cat looks amazing and so beautiful. It's an ep that's worth the repeat.

They don’t release full videos unfortunately

Ahhh that sucks. Thank you for letting us know. Every pod should have video forms available. Would have loved to see the full ep in video form. Still, we get to listen to Cat talk. Thankful for this ep.

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Why are yall posting random Instagram accounts on here? Cmon

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Why are yall posting random Instagram accounts on here? Cmon

Just people being bored and trolling, just ignore it.

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Y’all really love dragging stuff that makes no sense

!!

Just ignore it. Might be 1 person just having a discussion with themselves. Seems like trollish behavior to me.

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Wouldn’t Kathleen as a Psychiatrist would have noticed that her son Lucas has ADHD? I mean she should have noticed it (maybe every person who has a medical degree) could/should.
So I’m more by Nancy (who is a OB I think) or maybe Liz.

As much as I want to send see Neve Campbell again because you would ever seen liz with Amelia I got the impression in season 9 when we met her originally her kids weren't old enough to be a doctor yet because of the fact that they were running around telling people that they were excited to have a brown baby in the family. Because of that I always got the impression that they were there maybe six or under because I just can't imagine kids who are 10 or older going around doing that

If she has 5 (the 4 sisters) or maybe even 6 kids it could have been the younger ones like Lucas would have been 13/14 (if he is 25 now) the others could have been like 4/6/8/10

is it know in which order the she’s were born? Was Derek was the oldest and Amelia the youngest and the others in the middle?

The birth order of the older shepherd kids was never said however I've always assumed Amelia came long after whoever was the second youngest because in private practice Addison mentions knowing Amelia when she was 12 which would imply at least a 10-year age get between her and Amelia because we also know Derek and Addison didn't meet until med school. But then fans generally seem to think there's 5 to 7 years between Amelia and Derek based on that flashback we got of their dad dying.

But yeah I've always assumed that Amelia was sort of an accident baby because I understand that her mom was traumatized and grieving after leaving her husband but she fully headed off her 5-year-old daughter to her son to raise which to me says that she never really wanted her

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Thank you for sharing. Love that the pic they used is from the Saturn's Magazine shoot. Is there or will there be a full vid of the ep? I'd love it if there isn't one out yet. Cat looks amazing and so beautiful. It's an ep that's worth the repeat.

She looks so beautiful in this video.

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The promo pictures for the next episode are there no Amelia in them (doesn’t need to mean she isn’t in the episode) and the renowned surgeon, whom Bailey greatly admires unfortunately is no one we know. Would have been fun to have someone back.

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The promo pictures for the next episode are there no Amelia in them (doesn’t need to mean she isn’t in the episode) and the renowned surgeon, whom Bailey greatly admires unfortunately is no one we know. Would have been fun to have someone back.

Yeah it being someone we don't know doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I know it was probably a pipe dream for Addison to come back but not that you wouldn't be aware of people at the top of other specialties because you would be. However Bailey knowing about this man and inviting him and introducing him as someone she greatly admired sees like she's starting to learn too far in the speciality that isn't hers again.

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The promo pictures for the next episode are there no Amelia in them (doesn’t need to mean she isn’t in the episode) and the renowned surgeon, whom Bailey greatly admires unfortunately is no one we know. Would have been fun to have someone back.

If I’m not mistaken, everyone got their two episodes miss, so the next five episodes everyone should be there.

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The promo pictures for the next episode are there no Amelia in them (doesn’t need to mean she isn’t in the episode) and the renowned surgeon, whom Bailey greatly admires unfortunately is no one we know. Would have been fun to have someone back.

Yeah it being someone we don't know doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I know it was probably a pipe dream for Addison to come back but not that you wouldn't be aware of people at the top of other specialties because you would be. However Bailey knowing about this man and inviting him and introducing him as someone she greatly admired sees like she's starting to learn too far in the speciality that isn't hers again.

Yeah Addison would have been great (also for some possible scenes with Amelia) or Maggie (again possible scene with Amelia) or even Arizona but a guy we never saw or heard of… last time we talked about the possibility about it being some we know someone mentioned Tom and I coincidentally looked at the scene where he came in for David Hamilton case and Baileys words were something like : is he here to give me another heart attack so I would say that’s as fartest away for admiring as it gets

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The promo pictures for the next episode are there no Amelia in them (doesn’t need to mean she isn’t in the episode) and the renowned surgeon, whom Bailey greatly admires unfortunately is no one we know. Would have been fun to have someone back.

Yeah it being someone we don't know doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I know it was probably a pipe dream for Addison to come back but not that you wouldn't be aware of people at the top of other specialties because you would be. However Bailey knowing about this man and inviting him and introducing him as someone she greatly admired sees like she's starting to learn too far in the speciality that isn't hers again.

Yeah Addison would have been great (also for some possible scenes with Amelia) or Maggie (again possible scene with Amelia) or even Arizona but a guy we never saw or heard of… last time we talked about the possibility about it being some we know someone mentioned Tom and I coincidentally looked at the scene where he came in for David Hamilton case and Baileys words were something like : is he here to give me another heart attack so I would say that’s as fartest away for admiring as it gets

It still boggles my mind that the writing choice the last time Addison was in town was to let Amelia find out by literally accidently bumping in to her in the hallways. Like what was that? They're supposed to be sisters no way Addison would do that

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I watched yesterday’s episode and I just felt sad that Amelia has nobody to talked to when the surgeries are done. Doesn’t even get to talk to the patient because her patient was a family member to another character. Do you think they’ll show her presenting at grand rounds?
The synopsis might have put this story on top and used Amelia and Simone but it was a Kwan storyline.

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The promo pictures for the next episode are there no Amelia in them (doesn’t need to mean she isn’t in the episode) and the renowned surgeon, whom Bailey greatly admires unfortunately is no one we know. Would have been fun to have someone back.

If I’m not mistaken, everyone got their two episodes miss, so the next five episodes everyone should be there.

Didn’t Chris just miss his third yesterday?

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I watched yesterday’s episode and I just felt sad that Amelia has nobody to talked to when the surgeries are done. Doesn’t even get to talk to the patient because her patient was a family member to another character. Do you think they’ll show her presenting at grand rounds?
The synopsis might have put this story on top and used Amelia and Simone but it was a Kwan storyline.

It’s a kwan storyline and therefore I wasn’t expecting post surgery moment. But yeah it’s sad because she hasn’t had this moment for a long time.

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I watched yesterday’s episode and I just felt sad that Amelia has nobody to talked to when the surgeries are done. Doesn’t even get to talk to the patient because her patient was a family member to another character. Do you think they’ll show her presenting at grand rounds?
The synopsis might have put this story on top and used Amelia and Simone but it was a Kwan storyline.

Even an article on TV line was questioning when she was going to have a storyline of her own. It’s really just sad at this point.

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We've been blessed with a couple of great pod appearances this week. One each from Cat and ER. Loved ER's ep with Drew, always fun to listen to them on Drew's pod. Also loved Cat's in depth ep with Emily. Very deep and nuanced as usual from Cat. Both eps are worthy repeaters in my book.

Yes both are really very pleasant to listen to. And it’s just amazing how ER and Cat have same values and same perspectives and yet we can see each uniqueness. They are indeed like parts of puzzle but at the same time a complete puzzle on their own.

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For those interested apparently Sophia Bush's last episode was this past Thursday's so I guess we can sort of ass Cass and Teddy to the list of queer relationships what were sort of bait because now that Teddy realized she doesn't want an open marriage Cass is just gone

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For those interested apparently Sophia Bush's last episode was this past Thursday's so I guess we can sort of ass Cass and Teddy to the list of queer relationships what were sort of bait because now that Teddy realized she doesn't want an open marriage Cass is just gone

This showrunner is so bad. Not a fan of SB and can take your leave Teddy but why ramp all that up just to have it be a tease? Sure they got the gratuitous part of the plan on air with the make out and undressing scene but why have it be the queer couple that doesn’t do it and once again we are left watching the most unattractive man on tv in yet another sex scene with a beautiful woman.

Even Jules and Mika felt very baity with a sex scene thrown in in the final seconds of a maybe 6&7episode
pairing.
Monemlia was pure bait and I won’t even listen to anyone who says otherwise.

Even if there was a good amount of the general audience who was against kai because of bigotry. It was still one of the few times in recent years that the show had any fanfare on socials.

And while socila media doesn’t account for everything, it’s not like their Nielsen numbers are great. The people streaming and rewatching episodes are probably more the younger generation and likely the generation accepting of the LGBTQ+ characters/couples. It’s a no brainer if you ask me.

It doesn’t make sense that the only fanfare this show gets these days is from their queer characters and couples. You’d think they’d lean into it. Oh well.

And to end this, every single non-queer related post, tweet, etc .. is about people hating Owen yet here is still having his cake and eating it too.

Hate this dumb show

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For those interested apparently Sophia Bush's last episode was this past Thursday's so I guess we can sort of ass Cass and Teddy to the list of queer relationships what were sort of bait because now that Teddy realized she doesn't want an open marriage Cass is just gone

This showrunner is so bad. Not a fan of SB and can take your leave Teddy but why ramp all that up just to have it be a tease? Sure they got the gratuitous part of the plan on air with the make out and undressing scene but why have it be the queer couple that doesn’t do it and once again we are left watching the most unattractive man on tv in yet another sex scene with a beautiful woman.

Even Jules and Mika felt very baity with a sex scene thrown in in the final seconds of a maybe 6&7episode
pairing.
Monemlia was pure bait and I won’t even listen to anyone who says otherwise.

Even if there was a good amount of the general audience who was against kai because of bigotry. It was still one of the few times in recent years that the show had any fanfare on socials.

And while socila media doesn’t account for everything, it’s not like their Nielsen numbers are great. The people streaming and rewatching episodes are probably more the younger generation and likely the generation accepting of the LGBTQ+ characters/couples. It’s a no brainer if you ask me.

It doesn’t make sense that the only fanfare this show gets these days is from their queer characters and couples. You’d think they’d lean into it. Oh well.

And to end this, every single non-queer related post, tweet, etc .. is about people hating Owen yet here is still having his cake and eating it too.

Hate this dumb show

Don't forget they also broke up helm and Mika unceremoniouslt into he middle of a work day and ended up having Jules and Mika end because Mika's sister died and she moved back home.

I'm still mad that they had Amelia feel enough for Monica that she asked her out only for them to change on a dime and have Monica sleep with Winston. Like even if she wasn't ready to date because dof her ex wife why couldn't the hookup have been Amelia and her still? Why bait us with a queer relationship/hookup only to turn it straight

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It’s always the men who win in the end.

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For those interested apparently Sophia Bush's last episode was this past Thursday's so I guess we can sort of ass Cass and Teddy to the list of queer relationships what were sort of bait because now that Teddy realized she doesn't want an open marriage Cass is just gone

Generally curios how do you know that?

I was a bit hoping after she posted the picture with Cat and the text that they didn’t have a scene together (yet)! that it might been a hint that she might would have a scene with Cat as Amelia. Not as a couple but like in the hospital with a patient while Cass is helping out again.

Also someone wrote that the people replying to Bailey’s text that greys that those are coming back. I hope not because Monica replied and I don’t want another season of her with no real purpose.

I hate all the teasing of queer relationships that never happen so yes the show runners and writers are bad as hell.

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For those interested apparently Sophia Bush's last episode was this past Thursday's so I guess we can sort of ass Cass and Teddy to the list of queer relationships what were sort of bait because now that Teddy realized she doesn't want an open marriage Cass is just gone

Generally curios how do you know that?

I was a bit hoping after she posted the picture with Cat and the text that they didn’t have a scene together (yet)! that it might been a hint that she might would have a scene with Cat as Amelia. Not as a couple but like in the hospital with a patient while Cass is helping out again.

Also someone wrote that the people replying to Bailey’s text that greys that those are coming back. I hope not because Monica replied and I don’t want another season of her with no real purpose.

I hate all the teasing of queer relationships that never happen so yes the show runners and writers are bad as hell.

She was asked if she was coming back in a deadline article and she said "I don't know". That mixed with the fact that she was introduced as a possible kink in Teddy and Owens wedding but now that Teddy realized she doesn't actually want an open relationship there's no purpose for her anymore.

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For those interested apparently Sophia Bush's last episode was this past Thursday's so I guess we can sort of ass Cass and Teddy to the list of queer relationships what were sort of bait because now that Teddy realized she doesn't want an open marriage Cass is just gone

Generally curios how do you know that?

I was a bit hoping after she posted the picture with Cat and the text that they didn’t have a scene together (yet)! that it might been a hint that she might would have a scene with Cat as Amelia. Not as a couple but like in the hospital with a patient while Cass is helping out again.

Also someone wrote that the people replying to Bailey’s text that greys that those are coming back. I hope not because Monica replied and I don’t want another season of her with no real purpose.

I hate all the teasing of queer relationships that never happen so yes the show runners and writers are bad as hell.

She was asked if she was coming back in a deadline article and she said "I don't know". That mixed with the fact that she was introduced as a possible kink in Teddy and Owens wedding but now that Teddy realized she doesn't actually want an open relationship there's no purpose for her anymore.

Found the article. That could have been also meant for the coming back for the season 21.
She still could appear ones more in the hospital after Teddy finds out that Owen has slept with someone and then not sure if she might not do the same (or not) In the end Teddy will stay with Owen like she always goes back to him - but I wouldn’t mind Cass appearing one last time and have a scene with Amelia before she decides to only work at her hospital and is probably never seen again.

Also I hate people just disappearing like Helm, like Carina..

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For those interested apparently Sophia Bush's last episode was this past Thursday's so I guess we can sort of ass Cass and Teddy to the list of queer relationships what were sort of bait because now that Teddy realized she doesn't want an open marriage Cass is just gone

Generally curios how do you know that?

I was a bit hoping after she posted the picture with Cat and the text that they didn’t have a scene together (yet)! that it might been a hint that she might would have a scene with Cat as Amelia. Not as a couple but like in the hospital with a patient while Cass is helping out again.

Also someone wrote that the people replying to Bailey’s text that greys that those are coming back. I hope not because Monica replied and I don’t want another season of her with no real purpose.

I hate all the teasing of queer relationships that never happen so yes the show runners and writers are bad as hell.

She was asked if she was coming back in a deadline article and she said "I don't know". That mixed with the fact that she was introduced as a possible kink in Teddy and Owens wedding but now that Teddy realized she doesn't actually want an open relationship there's no purpose for her anymore.

Also, that text thing wasn’t real lol. I don’t think that necessarily means that’s who is returning. It was just a fun little reel.

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For those interested apparently Sophia Bush's last episode was this past Thursday's so I guess we can sort of ass Cass and Teddy to the list of queer relationships what were sort of bait because now that Teddy realized she doesn't want an open marriage Cass is just gone

Ya I really don’t think Natalie is returning.
Generally curios how do you know that?

I was a bit hoping after she posted the picture with Cat and the text that they didn’t have a scene together (yet)! that it might been a hint that she might would have a scene with Cat as Amelia. Not as a couple but like in the hospital with a patient while Cass is helping out again.

Also someone wrote that the people replying to Bailey’s text that greys that those are coming back. I hope not because Monica replied and I don’t want another season of her with no real purpose.

I hate all the teasing of queer relationships that never happen so yes the show runners and writers are bad as hell.

She was asked if she was coming back in a deadline article and she said "I don't know". That mixed with the fact that she was introduced as a possible kink in Teddy and Owens wedding but now that Teddy realized she doesn't actually want an open relationship there's no purpose for her anymore.

Also, that text thing wasn’t real lol. I don’t think that necessarily means that’s who is returning. It was just a fun little reel.

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For those interested apparently Sophia Bush's last episode was this past Thursday's so I guess we can sort of ass Cass and Teddy to the list of queer relationships what were sort of bait because now that Teddy realized she doesn't want an open marriage Cass is just gone

Generally curios how do you know that?

I was a bit hoping after she posted the picture with Cat and the text that they didn’t have a scene together (yet)! that it might been a hint that she might would have a scene with Cat as Amelia. Not as a couple but like in the hospital with a patient while Cass is helping out again.

Also someone wrote that the people replying to Bailey’s text that greys that those are coming back. I hope not because Monica replied and I don’t want another season of her with no real purpose.

I hate all the teasing of queer relationships that never happen so yes the show runners and writers are bad as hell.

She was asked if she was coming back in a deadline article and she said "I don't know". That mixed with the fact that she was introduced as a possible kink in Teddy and Owens wedding but now that Teddy realized she doesn't actually want an open relationship there's no purpose for her anymore.

Found the article. That could have been also meant for the coming back for the season 21.
She still could appear ones more in the hospital after Teddy finds out that Owen has slept with someone and then not sure if she might not do the same (or not) In the end Teddy will stay with Owen like she always goes back to him - but I wouldn’t mind Cass appearing one last time and have a scene with Amelia before she decides to only work at her hospital and is probably never seen again.

Also I hate people just disappearing like Helm, like Carina..

I would love a scene between Amelia and Cass but unfortunately they are allergic to giving her any meaningful scenes outside of her storylines with Meredith. I am hoping that we'll get to see Grand rounds but I'm not holding out hope

Kim did also she she wasnt sure if Cass would return which if I was being more hopeful i would it's a openedned answer so she could come back but I just don't trust this show.

As for your Carina point It bothers me so much that they're letting Bailey lean back into this OB clinic idea because it's a storyline that we're most likely never going to see because of the fact that we don't have an
OB attending anymore because it feels like there's no chance in getting Stefania back. Plus Meg already said once (I believe when she first took over) that she's not going to bring Addison back unless it's tied to Amelia somehow even though there's literally a clinic for Addison to work at.

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I’d like to have Addison back for Amelia.

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I’d like to have Addison back for Amelia.

Don't get me wrong I would too but it just bothers me a little that they are only brining her back for Amelia when she could come back and help Bailey train the out of state on residents because we already saw he evoking back to help Bailey once

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I’d like to have Addison back for Amelia.

Don't get me wrong I would too but it just bothers me a little that they are only brining her back for Amelia when she could come back and help Bailey train the out of state on residents because we already saw he evoking back to help Bailey once

Sorry definitely meant "her coming back" no clue how I keyboard smashed my way to that mess up

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I’d like to have Addison back for Amelia.

Don't get me wrong I would too but it just bothers me a little that they are only brining her back for Amelia when she could come back and help Bailey train the out of state on residents because we already saw he evoking back to help Bailey once

Sorry definitely meant "her coming back" no clue how I keyboard smashed my way to that mess up

That’s alright . What I meant is even if Addison comes back for Bailey, it would also be nice to have a story of her and Amelia even if for one or two episodes.

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I’d like to have Addison back for Amelia.

Don't get me wrong I would too but it just bothers me a little that they are only brining her back for Amelia when she could come back and help Bailey train the out of state on residents because we already saw he evoking back to help Bailey once

Sorry definitely meant "her coming back" no clue how I keyboard smashed my way to that mess up

That’s alright . What I meant is even if Addison comes back for Bailey, it would also be nice to have a story of her and Amelia even if for one or two episodes.

I gotcha! At this point I would honestly take Addison coming back and not telling Amelia she would be back like she did last time because at least that lead to the amazing "I love you and" scenewjxj is the most we've gotten for Amelia outside of Meredith in like 2 seasons.

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Don't get me wrong I would too but it just bothers me a little that they are only brining her back for Amelia when she could come back and help Bailey train the out of state on residents because we already saw he evoking back to help Bailey once

Sorry definitely meant "her coming back" no clue how I keyboard smashed my way to that mess up

That’s alright . What I meant is even if Addison comes back for Bailey, it would also be nice to have a story of her and Amelia even if for one or two episodes.

I gotcha! At this point I would honestly take Addison coming back and not telling Amelia she would be back like she did last time because at least that lead to the amazing "I love you and" scenewjxj is the most we've gotten for Amelia outside of Meredith in like 2 seasons.

I love Addison and Amelia

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Picture of E.R. From their upcoming episode of pretty gay

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Picture of E.R. From their upcoming episode of pretty gay

Where did you find this, please post the link

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DA it’s on Patreon.

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DA it’s on Patreon.

If anyone is listening, let us summarize what E.R. said

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DA it’s on Patreon.

If anyone is listening, let us summarize what E.R. said

It’s an upcoming episode, it hasn’t dropped yet

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DA it’s on Patreon.

If anyone is listening, let us summarize what E.R. said

It’s just a picture. The actual episode isn’t out and season 3 comes out in May

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For those interested apparently Sophia Bush's last episode was this past Thursday's so I guess we can sort of ass Cass and Teddy to the list of queer relationships what were sort of bait because now that Teddy realized she doesn't want an open marriage Cass is just gone

Generally curios how do you know that?

I was a bit hoping after she posted the picture with Cat and the text that they didn’t have a scene together (yet)! that it might been a hint that she might would have a scene with Cat as Amelia. Not as a couple but like in the hospital with a patient while Cass is helping out again.

Also someone wrote that the people replying to Bailey’s text that greys that those are coming back. I hope not because Monica replied and I don’t want another season of her with no real purpose.

I hate all the teasing of queer relationships that never happen so yes the show runners and writers are bad as hell.

She was asked if she was coming back in a deadline article and she said "I don't know". That mixed with the fact that she was introduced as a possible kink in Teddy and Owens wedding but now that Teddy realized she doesn't actually want an open relationship there's no purpose for her anymore.

Found the article. That could have been also meant for the coming back for the season 21.
She still could appear ones more in the hospital after Teddy finds out that Owen has slept with someone and then not sure if she might not do the same (or not) In the end Teddy will stay with Owen like she always goes back to him - but I wouldn’t mind Cass appearing one last time and have a scene with Amelia before she decides to only work at her hospital and is probably never seen again.

Also I hate people just disappearing like Helm, like Carina..

The problem I have with cast just leaving the show now that Teddy realized she didn't actually want to open marriage as if you didn't know about Allison before it kind of seems like they just used to concept of bisexuality as a stopover on having Teddy realized that she wants to be with a man