My curiosity got the best of me so I tried to google it but all I got was a lot of porn videos and links to lack of sensation problem after giving birth and not much else that could serve this particular educational purpose. So for us newbies who, until yesterday, had no idea that vagina widening was a thing, I was wondering if you could shine some more light on that. For example, what's purpose of that, some women get off on that or it makes it easier afterwards to do other things or? Psychologically does it come down to marking a territory like men do with their virgin-obsession or dominating or degrading a partner? What are the consequences your friend suffered, like is the whole thing reversible after a while or not? Was she struggling mentally because she felt humiliated afterwards or was it due to suffering physical consequences? As I take it, it's a process and not a one-time thing? For the life of me, I can't wrap my head around why would anyone want to hate female body so much
I want to disclaimer this so if anyone is triggered/uncomfortable, I kindly ask you to read no further or make any unnecessary comments that doesn’t go along with what’s being discussed/asked, thank you. Please excuse any typos.
This post might get kinda long so I’ll spoiler most of it. Eventually my curiosity got the better of me too anon. I just didn’t understand why there were women who wanted to do that either, so one night (in that same chatroom) I decided to ask a woman (I’ll call her Diane so it doesn’t get confusing) who was into it (which wasn’t so easy).
what's purpose of that, some women get off on that or it makes it easier afterwards to do other things or?
For Diane she was fascinated by/got off on it. She said she had been to “special clubs in the kink world” (she’d been “practicing” kink for 6-7 years at that time) and seen a performance of a women getting her vagina widen which caught her interest. Seeing that was the most turned on she’d ever been in her life, so eventually she started learning/practicing on other women from some of those clubs, then herself (all of it was consensual and heavily discussed). Apparently the “wider” or “more gaped” her vagina got the more turned on/harder she orgasm. She went on to say there were people (predominately men) who would abuse the rules. There were women who only wanted to be stretched to certain widths. For example, the width of remotes, game controllers, computer mouses, a fist, hair brushes to name a few, but there would be men who would break the rules (sneakily of course) and stretch them beyond their limits. That’s why when she was widening her vagina or another woman’s (they would be FWBs or in a relationship) no men were ever involved/there. She stretched herself to the width of a “water bottle” because anything wider than that was too extreme for her taste but she had ex girlfriends who were into the extreme stuff. From my understanding the only thing that was easier to do were use more toys and increasing the amount of them that could fit inside at the same time.
Psychologically does it come down to marking a territory like men do with their virgin-obsession or dominating or degrading a partner?
From what Diane said, the majority of the male members would be “marking their territory” or “dominating” their partners. The others were a mixed bag of degrading their wives/gfs (whether those women were into it or not) and rule followers. The women were different. A sizable minority of them wanted to feel a connection, appreciated, friendship, and loved to an extent but because they were into vagina widening, “strictly vanilla” people wouldn’t be able to give them that. From that statement you already know what the majority of those women were into. Diane was looking for companionship/love/trust. (Her words) It made her feel more closer to her partner, and it was very intimate/fulfilling to feel/watch her girlfriend stretching her to her limits and orgasming. So I asked her why did she come to that chatroom instead of the ones that fit her taste. She told me they were all either filled with straight people, m/f couples looking for a woman, or gay/bi men (she had cut men out completely at some point and was only sleeping with/dating women exclusively). The few others that did have single/actual lesbians/bi women were all butches/studs looking for femmes and vice versa, but she only dated other femmes, so she decided to check out the “vanilla” chatrooms and see if maybe she could get a woman’s curiosity up enough to get in a relationship with her and continue the practice (she wasn’t going to insist/hint at her potential/future gf doing that to herself if she had no interest to do so).
What are the consequences your friend suffered, like is the whole thing reversible after a while or not? Was she struggling mentally because she felt humiliated afterwards or was it due to suffering physical consequences? As I take it, it's a process and not a one-time thing?
I’m not sure if it’s reversible or not, but I figure after a while if they don’t keep widening it could possibly get smaller. It was a mix. She felt humiliated because she gave in and didn’t continue to say no/other women being disgusted by the way it looked like how she did (before therapy). Hers did gradually get smaller (over time) but it was never the size it was (according to her) before her ex gf started. There was no physical damage to my knowledge (she did get some surgery to remove the excessive inner labia skin that she got from being stretched to what it looked like before). Everything still worked as normal except it was really wide/gaped. It took roughly a year give or take of them having sex 3-4 times maybe more everyday until she noticed a big change.
For the life of me, I can't wrap my head around why would anyone want to hate female body so much
For the women like Diane they don’t see it that way, which I feel make up the very smallest percentage. I think the majority of them hate themselves/bodies and want to make their “outside” look like a physical manifestation of their inside, so who better than to “nurture/enhance” those negative feelings/thoughts than misogynist and weird narcissist/master manipulators.
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"When making personal decisions, listen to what your head says then listen to what your heart says. If they differ, follow your heart. Whenever you listen to your heart, you listen to that part of you that is most interested in your well-being."
This thread is reminding of my experiences with an ex gf who was my first in everything (I wasn't her first though) that I'm scared to think about but also fear maybe I overreacted or should have communicated but i was just ao afraid of how she would react or assume things (again) incorrectly.
Is it weird not to be into dildos at all? I don't see anything wrong with them, but it does nothing for me and I don't like using it on anyone else either. I'm sure some people will see that as prudish, but is it a dealbreaker for most lesbians out there?
Not to me. I don't like them at all either. They make me highly uncomfortable, because it triggers me emotionally (not in anger or any emotion similar to/like that). I agree, there's nothing wrong with the women who like to incorporate them, but I have no interest whatsoever (even if they weren't a trigger). In my opinion, it doesn't make someone a prude (not talking about you anon, just referencing the "some people"), because they are comfortable with/know their likes/wants. Hmm, it's only a deal breaker if she wants me to use it on her/vice versa. If she uses them for "personal time/stress relief" that's fine, but I just can't have them anywhere near me/in my home.
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"When making personal decisions, listen to what your head says then listen to what your heart says. If they differ, follow your heart. Whenever you listen to your heart, you listen to that part of you that is most interested in your well-being."
Is it weird not to be into dildos at all? I don't see anything wrong with them, but it does nothing for me and I don't like using it on anyone else either. I'm sure some people will see that as prudish, but is it a dealbreaker for most lesbians out there?
Nope, common enough. Then there are degrees - some women are fine with non realistic or stylized ones, but not others, which is why you see them in fun shapes and colors now. Some aren't cool with any penetration. Definitely not a deal breaker.
Speaking personally, a dildo specifically does nothing for me on its own, unless if I can use it as resistance during something else. Vibrators are okay, but mostly the same, they're good to amp up something else but just a waste of time by themselves.
This thread is reminding of my experiences with an ex gf who was my first in everything (I wasn't her first though) that I'm scared to think about but also fear maybe I overreacted or should have communicated but i was just ao afraid of how she would react or assume things (again) incorrectly.
It's an anon forum, if you want to talk it out here it would definitely be the OPs topic.
This thread is reminding of my experiences with an ex gf who was my first in everything (I wasn't her first though) that I'm scared to think about but also fear maybe I overreacted or should have communicated but i was just ao afraid of how she would react or assume things (again) incorrectly.
It's an anon forum, if you want to talk it out here it would definitely be the OPs topic.
Do you mean talk only about OP's experience/situation here?
This thread is reminding of my experiences with an ex gf who was my first in everything (I wasn't her first though) that I'm scared to think about but also fear maybe I overreacted or should have communicated but i was just ao afraid of how she would react or assume things (again) incorrectly.
I hope you are in a better place in your life/relationship now anon It's hard to really talk out/convey your feelings to someone who is quick to get angry/short-tempered.
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"When making personal decisions, listen to what your head says then listen to what your heart says. If they differ, follow your heart. Whenever you listen to your heart, you listen to that part of you that is most interested in your well-being."
This thread is reminding of my experiences with an ex gf who was my first in everything (I wasn't her first though) that I'm scared to think about but also fear maybe I overreacted or should have communicated but i was just ao afraid of how she would react or assume things (again) incorrectly.
I hope you are in a better place in your life/relationship now anon It's hard to really talk out/convey your feelings to someone who is quick to get angry/short-tempered.
Things got real bad and rough for me for years due to that relationship and it's sad I'm still dealing with the impacts of it despite undergoing therapy which hasn't really helped much to be honest.
This thread is reminding of my experiences with an ex gf who was my first in everything (I wasn't her first though) that I'm scared to think about but also fear maybe I overreacted or should have communicated but i was just ao afraid of how she would react or assume things (again) incorrectly.
It's an anon forum, if you want to talk it out here it would definitely be the OPs topic.
Do you mean talk only about OP's experience/situation here?
She's talking about the bolded. If she is comfortable/ready to discuss her experiences I don't mind. Who knows, reading all the other women's stories might give her a little confidence to maybe consider it.
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"When making personal decisions, listen to what your head says then listen to what your heart says. If they differ, follow your heart. Whenever you listen to your heart, you listen to that part of you that is most interested in your well-being."
This thread is reminding of my experiences with an ex gf who was my first in everything (I wasn't her first though) that I'm scared to think about but also fear maybe I overreacted or should have communicated but i was just ao afraid of how she would react or assume things (again) incorrectly.
It's an anon forum, if you want to talk it out here it would definitely be the OPs topic.
Do you mean talk only about OP's experience/situation here?
No, sorry, I was just saying if you wanted to talk about your experience it's as good a place as any, because it's anonymous and is pretty much spot on topic.
This thread is reminding of my experiences with an ex gf who was my first in everything (I wasn't her first though) that I'm scared to think about but also fear maybe I overreacted or should have communicated but i was just ao afraid of how she would react or assume things (again) incorrectly.
I hope you are in a better place in your life/relationship now anon It's hard to really talk out/convey your feelings to someone who is quick to get angry/short-tempered.
Things got real bad and rough for me for years due to that relationship and it's sad I'm still dealing with the impacts of it despite undergoing therapy which hasn't really helped much to be honest.
That doesn't make you look sad to me anon. There is no certain timeframe for healing, everybody is different. Some heal fast while others need a longer time. Since things were that bad for that long it's understandable that it will take quite a bit of time for you but that isn't a bad thing. Therapy just doesn't work for everyone, and you shouldn't feel defeated (not saying you do) that it's not. Maybe there's some other method that will help you. I'm truly sorry that happened to you, especially with your ex being your first, but I hope something positive comes along that will really work so you can properly heal and move forward with your life friend
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"When making personal decisions, listen to what your head says then listen to what your heart says. If they differ, follow your heart. Whenever you listen to your heart, you listen to that part of you that is most interested in your well-being."
Is it weird not to be into dildos at all? I don't see anything wrong with them, but it does nothing for me and I don't like using it on anyone else either. I'm sure some people will see that as prudish, but is it a dealbreaker for most lesbians out there?
No not weird at all or a dealbreaker. None of the women i dated are into them and i dont care about them either. Pretending most lesbians are into dildos or strap, is an internet thing and is obviously pushed by you-know-whos (none lesbians of every colour)
x2 I'm a feminine lesbian who sometimes/few times like strap-on but it's just something extra, depending on rare mood, that not only I can live without but even don't think about in my mind at all. So almost all sex life in relationships, we're only happy, crave, need each other's body and nothing else.
choking. it is weird to me. does not make me hornier AT ALL. at some point it became toxic and i over exaggerated and almost went over board... we split. best decision EVER
I'm glad you were able to get out of that relationship anon. Since we're on the subject of choking, I remember a woman from several years ago who was a member of the same server room as myself. She was divorced and in her early 40s. One day the other women in the group wanted to share their "kinks." There wasn't anything said that I would consider to be outlandish but when she logged in and caught up with what we were discussing, she tells us she's into choking. I won't bore you with all the details but this is a comment she made that I haven't forgotten, "There's no bigger high in the world than being partially unconscious and having a strong orgasm at the same time. The euphoria of feeling oxygen come back into your lungs while you're basking in the afterglow of sex is a very intimate and powerful experience." That was the most creepiest thing I had ever read at that time.
choking. it is weird to me. does not make me hornier AT ALL. at some point it became toxic and i over exaggerated and almost went over board... we split. best decision EVER
I'm glad you were able to get out of that relationship anon. Since we're on the subject of choking, I remember a woman from several years ago who was a member of the same server room as myself. She was divorced and in her early 40s. One day the other women in the group wanted to share their "kinks." There wasn't anything said that I would consider to be outlandish but when she logged in and caught up with what we were discussing, she tells us she's into choking. I won't bore you with all the details but this is a comment she made that I haven't forgotten, "There's no bigger high in the world than being partially unconscious and having a strong orgasm at the same time. The euphoria of feeling oxygen come back into your lungs while you're basking in the afterglow of sex is a very intimate and powerful experience." That was the most creepiest thing I had ever read at that time.
It's called autoerotic asphyxiation.
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Exactly.
I've even heard of cases of celebrities accidentally killing themselves because they tied a belt around their neck while masturbating and later couldn't get it off.
From my experience, the woman from your chat room wasn't wrong actually. I don't like choking or being choked, but if you manage to take the air in a couple of moments before an orgasm and hold your breath just long enough to get your heart pumping faster, you will experience a much stronger orgasm. The release is just otherworldly.
choking. it is weird to me. does not make me hornier AT ALL. at some point it became toxic and i over exaggerated and almost went over board... we split. best decision EVER
I'm glad you were able to get out of that relationship anon. Since we're on the subject of choking, I remember a woman from several years ago who was a member of the same server room as myself. She was divorced and in her early 40s. One day the other women in the group wanted to share their "kinks." There wasn't anything said that I would consider to be outlandish but when she logged in and caught up with what we were discussing, she tells us she's into choking. I won't bore you with all the details but this is a comment she made that I haven't forgotten, "There's no bigger high in the world than being partially unconscious and having a strong orgasm at the same time. The euphoria of feeling oxygen come back into your lungs while you're basking in the afterglow of sex is a very intimate and powerful experience." That was the most creepiest thing I had ever read at that time.
It's called autoerotic asphyxiation.
Da
Exactly.
I've even heard of cases of celebrities accidentally killing themselves because they tied a belt around their neck while masturbating and later couldn't get it off.
From my experience, the woman from your chat room wasn't wrong actually. I don't like choking or being choked, but if you manage to take the air in a couple of moments before an orgasm and hold your breath just long enough to get your heart pumping faster, you will experience a much stronger orgasm. The release is just otherworldly.
Isn't that something. Well, I've learned something new today.
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"When making personal decisions, listen to what your head says then listen to what your heart says. If they differ, follow your heart. Whenever you listen to your heart, you listen to that part of you that is most interested in your well-being."
I want to disclaimer this so if anyone is triggered/uncomfortable, I kindly ask you to read no further or make any unnecessary comments that doesn’t go along with what’s being discussed/asked, thank you. Please excuse any typos.
This post might get kinda long so I’ll spoiler most of it. Eventually my curiosity got the better of me too anon. I just didn’t understand why there were women who wanted to do that either, so one night (in that same chatroom) I decided to ask a woman (I’ll call her Diane so it doesn’t get confusing) who was into it (which wasn’t so easy).
what's purpose of that, some women get off on that or it makes it easier afterwards to do other things or?
For Diane she was fascinated by/got off on it. She said she had been to “special clubs in the kink world” (she’d been “practicing” kink for 6-7 years at that time) and seen a performance of a women getting her vagina widen which caught her interest. Seeing that was the most turned on she’d ever been in her life, so eventually she started learning/practicing on other women from some of those clubs, then herself (all of it was consensual and heavily discussed). Apparently the “wider” or “more gaped” her vagina got the more turned on/harder she orgasm. She went on to say there were people (predominately men) who would abuse the rules. There were women who only wanted to be stretched to certain widths. For example, the width of remotes, game controllers, computer mouses, a fist, hair brushes to name a few, but there would be men who would break the rules (sneakily of course) and stretch them beyond their limits. That’s why when she was widening her vagina or another woman’s (they would be FWBs or in a relationship) no men were ever involved/there. She stretched herself to the width of a “water bottle” because anything wider than that was too extreme for her taste but she had ex girlfriends who were into the extreme stuff. From my understanding the only thing that was easier to do were use more toys and increasing the amount of them that could fit inside at the same time.
Psychologically does it come down to marking a territory like men do with their virgin-obsession or dominating or degrading a partner?
From what Diane said, the majority of the male members would be “marking their territory” or “dominating” their partners. The others were a mixed bag of degrading their wives/gfs (whether those women were into it or not) and rule followers. The women were different. A sizable minority of them wanted to feel a connection, appreciated, friendship, and loved to an extent but because they were into vagina widening, “strictly vanilla” people wouldn’t be able to give them that. From that statement you already know what the majority of those women were into. Diane was looking for companionship/love/trust. (Her words) It made her feel more closer to her partner, and it was very intimate/fulfilling to feel/watch her girlfriend stretching her to her limits and orgasming. So I asked her why did she come to that chatroom instead of the ones that fit her taste. She told me they were all either filled with straight people, m/f couples looking for a woman, or gay/bi men (she had cut men out completely at some point and was only sleeping with/dating women exclusively). The few others that did have single/actual lesbians/bi women were all butches/studs looking for femmes and vice versa, but she only dated other femmes, so she decided to check out the “vanilla” chatrooms and see if maybe she could get a woman’s curiosity up enough to get in a relationship with her and continue the practice (she wasn’t going to insist/hint at her potential/future gf doing that to herself if she had no interest to do so).
What are the consequences your friend suffered, like is the whole thing reversible after a while or not? Was she struggling mentally because she felt humiliated afterwards or was it due to suffering physical consequences? As I take it, it's a process and not a one-time thing?
I’m not sure if it’s reversible or not, but I figure after a while if they don’t keep widening it could possibly get smaller. It was a mix. She felt humiliated because she gave in and didn’t continue to say no/other women being disgusted by the way it looked like how she did (before therapy). Hers did gradually get smaller (over time) but it was never the size it was (according to her) before her ex gf started. There was no physical damage to my knowledge (she did get some surgery to remove the excessive inner labia skin that she got from being stretched to what it looked like before). Everything still worked as normal except it was really wide/gaped. It took roughly a year give or take of them having sex 3-4 times maybe more everyday until she noticed a big change.
For the life of me, I can't wrap my head around why would anyone want to hate female body so much
For the women like Diane they don’t see it that way, which I feel make up the very smallest percentage. I think the majority of them hate themselves/bodies and want to make their “outside” look like a physical manifestation of their inside, so who better than to “nurture/enhance” those negative feelings/thoughts than misogynist and weird narcissist/master manipulators.
Thank you so much for taking the time to go over all my questions and answer them. I feel like I know more about this than I did, although the concept is still mind-boggling to me as to why would someone go to such lengths. I truly believed that not many things would come as a surprise to me in terms of fetishes, but I guess I underestimated the dark side of humans.
Anyways, I hope your friend is well now and that all of it was just a lesson learned the hard way.
Thank you so much for taking the time to go over all my questions and answer them. I feel like I know more about this than I did, although the concept is still mind-boggling to me as to why would someone go to such lengths. I truly believed that not many things would come as a surprise to me in terms of fetishes, but I guess I underestimated the dark side of humans.
Anyways, I hope your friend is well now and that all of it was just a lesson learned the hard way.
You're very welcome anon Same here. I didn't get it completely then and still don't now. Haha, I know what you mean! Thank you! Indeed she is alright now and it definitely was one she learned the hard way and she doesn't intend to repeat it thank goodness. I hope things are good for you and your weekend was pleasant
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"When making personal decisions, listen to what your head says then listen to what your heart says. If they differ, follow your heart. Whenever you listen to your heart, you listen to that part of you that is most interested in your well-being."
Wtff is this widening vaginas and fisting male crap
It was very weird to me when my friend first told me about it. I didn't understand because I honestly thought that was something men were into, not lesbians.
Gaping, insertion and such. I find it arousing in porn but never done it irl. Can’t imagine doing it to a girl unless she’d be absolutely into it. I’m ok with some things staying just fantasies. I’m so desensitized to porn that I usually gotta find something more unconventional to come fast, but it doesn’t mean I wanna do it to someone. Just like straight women flick their beans to lez porn but would never do sth with another woman irl.
Wtff is this widening vaginas and fisting male crap
It was very weird to me when my friend first told me about it. I didn't understand because I honestly thought that was something men were into, not lesbians.
Gaping, insertion and such. I find it arousing in porn but never done it irl. Can’t imagine doing it to a girl unless she’d be absolutely into it. I’m ok with some things staying just fantasies. I’m so desensitized to porn that I usually gotta find something more unconventional to come fast, but it doesn’t mean I wanna do it to someone. Just like straight women flick their beans to lez porn but would never do sth with another woman irl.
I see. If a girl did want me to do it I wouldn't because that doesn't fit into my likes/tastes, so I'd nicely tell her that relationship wouldn't work out. I agree that some things should stay fantasies but a big portion of people don't follow that line of thinking. Hmm, I'm one of the people who unfortunately got exposed to porn very early on in my life, but fortunately I didn't like/hated it and haven't ever watched/seen it voluntarily. Honestly that's something I find a bit off putting/strange, the straight women who "bean flick" to lez porn. I don't get it because lesbian sex is something they are disgusted/repulsed by irl, so why get aroused because they are watching it on a screen. Who knows, maybe they find comfort in knowing those women are just gay/bi for pay and aren't really "like that" outside of the studio. If I did willingly watch porn I wouldn't be bean flicking to any type of porn where a man is involved in the scene or made/geared specifically for/toward males because that makes me feel disgusted/repulsed irl and seeing it on a screen.
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"When making personal decisions, listen to what your head says then listen to what your heart says. If they differ, follow your heart. Whenever you listen to your heart, you listen to that part of you that is most interested in your well-being."
Wtff is this widening vaginas and fisting male crap
It was very weird to me when my friend first told me about it. I didn't understand because I honestly thought that was something men were into, not lesbians.
Gaping, insertion and such. I find it arousing in porn but never done it irl. Can’t imagine doing it to a girl unless she’d be absolutely into it. I’m ok with some things staying just fantasies. I’m so desensitized to porn that I usually gotta find something more unconventional to come fast, but it doesn’t mean I wanna do it to someone. Just like straight women flick their beans to lez porn but would never do sth with another woman irl.
I see. If a girl did want me to do it I wouldn't because that doesn't fit into my likes/tastes, so I'd nicely tell her that relationship wouldn't work out. I agree that some things should stay fantasies but a big portion of people don't follow that line of thinking. Hmm, I'm one of the people who unfortunately got exposed to porn very early on in my life, but fortunately I didn't like/hated it and haven't ever watched/seen it voluntarily. Honestly that's something I find a bit off putting/strange, the straight women who "bean flick" to lez porn. I don't get it because lesbian sex is something they are disgusted/repulsed by irl, so why get aroused because they are watching it on a screen. Who knows, maybe they find comfort in knowing those women are just gay/bi for pay and aren't really "like that" outside of the studio. If I did willingly watch porn I wouldn't be bean flicking to any type of porn where a man is involved in the scene or made/geared specifically for/toward males because that makes me feel disgusted/repulsed irl and seeing it on a screen.
Da
The theory is that women process porn differently and react "sympathetically" to the woman receiving pleasure. Straight porn is geared for men and often, if not almost always. The woman is treated abusively or in a way that wouldn't be pleasurable because the point is to cater to a male viewer who wants to imagine inflicting this stuff on somebody, so it doesn't work for most female straight viewers.
But lesbian porn is usually geared to emphasize how the receiving partner is reacting more and women respond to that. They're identifying with the pleasure more than the act.
It was very weird to me when my friend first told me about it. I didn't understand because I honestly thought that was something men were into, not lesbians.
Gaping, insertion and such. I find it arousing in porn but never done it irl. Can’t imagine doing it to a girl unless she’d be absolutely into it. I’m ok with some things staying just fantasies. I’m so desensitized to porn that I usually gotta find something more unconventional to come fast, but it doesn’t mean I wanna do it to someone. Just like straight women flick their beans to lez porn but would never do sth with another woman irl.
I see. If a girl did want me to do it I wouldn't because that doesn't fit into my likes/tastes, so I'd nicely tell her that relationship wouldn't work out. I agree that some things should stay fantasies but a big portion of people don't follow that line of thinking. Hmm, I'm one of the people who unfortunately got exposed to porn very early on in my life, but fortunately I didn't like/hated it and haven't ever watched/seen it voluntarily. Honestly that's something I find a bit off putting/strange, the straight women who "bean flick" to lez porn. I don't get it because lesbian sex is something they are disgusted/repulsed by irl, so why get aroused because they are watching it on a screen. Who knows, maybe they find comfort in knowing those women are just gay/bi for pay and aren't really "like that" outside of the studio. If I did willingly watch porn I wouldn't be bean flicking to any type of porn where a man is involved in the scene or made/geared specifically for/toward males because that makes me feel disgusted/repulsed irl and seeing it on a screen.
Da
The theory is that women process porn differently and react "sympathetically" to the woman receiving pleasure. Straight porn is geared for men and often, if not almost always. The woman is treated abusively or in a way that wouldn't be pleasurable because the point is to cater to a male viewer who wants to imagine inflicting this stuff on somebody, so it doesn't work for most female straight viewers.
But lesbian porn is usually geared to emphasize how the receiving partner is reacting more and women respond to that. They're identifying with the pleasure more than the act.
I've heard indirectly (kinda recent-ish) that straight women are creating (directing/writing I guess) m/f porn "properly" because of the abusive nature/male gearedness, so wouldn't those women be over there supporting/watching those instead? Well if that is indeed true.
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"When making personal decisions, listen to what your head says then listen to what your heart says. If they differ, follow your heart. Whenever you listen to your heart, you listen to that part of you that is most interested in your well-being."
Gaping, insertion and such. I find it arousing in porn but never done it irl. Can’t imagine doing it to a girl unless she’d be absolutely into it. I’m ok with some things staying just fantasies. I’m so desensitized to porn that I usually gotta find something more unconventional to come fast, but it doesn’t mean I wanna do it to someone. Just like straight women flick their beans to lez porn but would never do sth with another woman irl.
I see. If a girl did want me to do it I wouldn't because that doesn't fit into my likes/tastes, so I'd nicely tell her that relationship wouldn't work out. I agree that some things should stay fantasies but a big portion of people don't follow that line of thinking. Hmm, I'm one of the people who unfortunately got exposed to porn very early on in my life, but fortunately I didn't like/hated it and haven't ever watched/seen it voluntarily. Honestly that's something I find a bit off putting/strange, the straight women who "bean flick" to lez porn. I don't get it because lesbian sex is something they are disgusted/repulsed by irl, so why get aroused because they are watching it on a screen. Who knows, maybe they find comfort in knowing those women are just gay/bi for pay and aren't really "like that" outside of the studio. If I did willingly watch porn I wouldn't be bean flicking to any type of porn where a man is involved in the scene or made/geared specifically for/toward males because that makes me feel disgusted/repulsed irl and seeing it on a screen.
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The theory is that women process porn differently and react "sympathetically" to the woman receiving pleasure. Straight porn is geared for men and often, if not almost always. The woman is treated abusively or in a way that wouldn't be pleasurable because the point is to cater to a male viewer who wants to imagine inflicting this stuff on somebody, so it doesn't work for most female straight viewers.
But lesbian porn is usually geared to emphasize how the receiving partner is reacting more and women respond to that. They're identifying with the pleasure more than the act.
I've heard indirectly (kinda recent-ish) that straight women are creating (directing/writing I guess) m/f porn "properly" because of the abusive nature/male gearedness, so wouldn't those women be over there supporting/watching those instead? Well if that is indeed true.
Da
Perhaps it's a question for another topic but I can't help but wonder why is male sexuality so inherently violent that porn directors had to create borderline (or less borderline) abusive porn in order to cater to their needs.
Because yes, porn will adjust to (male) viewer's preference in order to increase the content consumption, so it is safe to say that men dictate how porn movies will be directed.
So I wonder why men seem to take most pleasure in degrading, hurting and subduing women/their sexual partners.
This is a question all straight women should ask even more, it's concerning that they dont seem to give it a thought.
Its very interesting, i hear straight women also watch solo lesbian porn so that's a little confusing haha
It might be strictly a fantasy thing they wouldn't be interested in irl but that might still put them somewhere on the scale, no?
I see. If a girl did want me to do it I wouldn't because that doesn't fit into my likes/tastes, so I'd nicely tell her that relationship wouldn't work out. I agree that some things should stay fantasies but a big portion of people don't follow that line of thinking. Hmm, I'm one of the people who unfortunately got exposed to porn very early on in my life, but fortunately I didn't like/hated it and haven't ever watched/seen it voluntarily. Honestly that's something I find a bit off putting/strange, the straight women who "bean flick" to lez porn. I don't get it because lesbian sex is something they are disgusted/repulsed by irl, so why get aroused because they are watching it on a screen. Who knows, maybe they find comfort in knowing those women are just gay/bi for pay and aren't really "like that" outside of the studio. If I did willingly watch porn I wouldn't be bean flicking to any type of porn where a man is involved in the scene or made/geared specifically for/toward males because that makes me feel disgusted/repulsed irl and seeing it on a screen.
Da
The theory is that women process porn differently and react "sympathetically" to the woman receiving pleasure. Straight porn is geared for men and often, if not almost always. The woman is treated abusively or in a way that wouldn't be pleasurable because the point is to cater to a male viewer who wants to imagine inflicting this stuff on somebody, so it doesn't work for most female straight viewers.
But lesbian porn is usually geared to emphasize how the receiving partner is reacting more and women respond to that. They're identifying with the pleasure more than the act.
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I've heard indirectly (kinda recent-ish) that straight women are creating (directing/writing I guess) m/f porn "properly" because of the abusive nature/male gearedness, so wouldn't those women be over there supporting/watching those instead? Well if that is indeed true.
Da
Perhaps it's a question for another topic but I can't help but wonder why is male sexuality so inherently violent that porn directors had to create borderline (or less borderline) abusive porn in order to cater to their needs.
Because yes, porn will adjust to (male) viewer's preference in order to increase the content consumption, so it is safe to say that men dictate how porn movies will be directed.
So I wonder why men seem to take most pleasure in degrading, hurting and subduing women/their sexual partners.
This is a question all straight women should ask even more, it's concerning that they dont seem to give it a thought.
Hmm, I'm not sure. I haven't really thought about it. Maybe they have some kinda gene or something that women don't have and when it gets released that's when you get all that abusiveness. Maybe I'm far reaching on that theory but that's the first thing that came to mind. Porn is just a doomed industry for the women who want to be more than a "star." Straight women are so accustomed to it that they are apathetic to the behavior now.
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"When making personal decisions, listen to what your head says then listen to what your heart says. If they differ, follow your heart. Whenever you listen to your heart, you listen to that part of you that is most interested in your well-being."
Its very interesting, i hear straight women also watch solo lesbian porn so that's a little confusing haha
It might be strictly a fantasy thing they wouldn't be interested in irl but that might still put them somewhere on the scale, no?
Anyway thats a topic for another day
If they watch it incessantly almost 24/7, I'd say she's on some kind of scale. Straight women I'm friends with don't even watch lesbian porn.
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"When making personal decisions, listen to what your head says then listen to what your heart says. If they differ, follow your heart. Whenever you listen to your heart, you listen to that part of you that is most interested in your well-being."
It's hard to really talk out/convey your feelings to someone who is quick to get angry/short-tempered.
That was the most creepiest thing I had ever read at that time.
Same here. I didn't get it completely then and still don't now. Haha, I know what you mean! 
Thank you! Indeed she is alright now and it definitely was one she learned the hard way and she doesn't intend to repeat it thank goodness. I hope things are good for you and your weekend was pleasant 