I get what you are trying to say and that tactic is an old tired one but it worked for many. Kinda like how a racists will find that one POC they tolerate so that they can then use the fact they are somewhat friendly with one POC to say they can't possibly be racist. Or how misogynists love hiding behind their wives or daughters or sisters.Guest wrote: ↑15 Jan 2022, 07:32Oh God you people are misunderstanding my post. I never compared Kristen with DeBose. I didn't even know she is queer or whatever. I had to google her after reading something in Twitter. May be I wasn't able to put my words properly.
What I said is putting homophobia aside, there are people in industry who wants Kristen not to succeed. By nominating Debose they trying to say that they have no problem with someone being queer. They want to prove their point that Kristen's performance isn't upto the mark to get nominated. In this way they can save their ass.
That's what is going on in Twitter. All are sighting debose's example.
I never in my right mind compare Kristen with DeBose. This is just a dirty game which SAG played.
Sorry if my post hurt someone's feelings.
Hollywood has operated in that way for decades. They pick one lgbtq person, let them have certain success, discriminate against everyone else from community and then use that one they let in as a proof they are not homophobic when accused of it. That's how we ended up with one queer per one line of business who got to have a mainstream career. In daytime TV that was Ellen, in nighttime TV that is Rachel Maddow and so on, I think you get what I'm talking about. I'm listing women only but it's not much different for queer men.
That being said, I don't think this tactic was used in Kristen's sag snub case. I think you are right when you say many don't want to see her succeed and that's the key. To me that's been obvious for years.
But they didn't vote for Debose to cover their homophobic tracks. What happened here is that they had no idea she's queer. They watched the movie, she's great in it and looks - the key! detail - very fuc*able (excuse my french). Meaning, she's extremely feminine in WSS so damn easy on the eyes. So men wanted to do her (excuse my french once again but reality is that nasty) and women wanted to be like her (have her legs, her lips, etc). During WSS promo her team dressed her to look very high glam, polished and most often 100% femme. So they voted for her because of her performance *and* because what they saw of her made her welcomed to their "club".
Debose being queer was never a topic in the mainstream press so they simply had no idea. Compare that to Kristen announcing engagement to a woman on Howard Stern and having CBS and the likes writing articles on their main pages about Kristen maybe being first openly lgbtq Oscar winner. That conversation about making a history woke up and enraged every homophobic cell in sag voters' bodies.
That journalist yesterday said it himself. When he started questioning sag voters, reasons they gave him were all lame and unconvincing, stupid but *all* eventually came down to "it's because she doesn't like men". Homophobia reigns supreme.
SAG is lucky Debose is openly gay because they can now use her nom as a cover and say Kristen's snub is strictly due to her bad performance. And people will believe them because very few watched Spencer to know better and Kristen is labeled as a 'not good actress' by mainstream media so sag will getaway with its homophobia.