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Wrap isn’t a term that gets used at the end of the day though. It’s specific for the end of a project. Tve other boys might not be done yet. We know he already had his centric episode. And they could have finished all the island scenes with the boys, but still have to do some centric backstories with the others.
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Explain all the time involving Leah in the bunker, Martha missing, and Shelby's anaphylaxis.Guest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 04:44DA but what if she's actually not? What if it's just a metaphor wrapped up as a trauma response. That scene where they sit on the beach and hold hands could be indication that Rachel came to think of Nora as her right hand man twin sister while on the island and is lost without her.Guest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 04:34What, you think they don't know how she's missing her hand??Yoda1234567880 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 04:26How does it make zero sense it’s a tv show, They’re not gonna make her outright say “oh yeah, she got killed by a shark” cause the viewers won’t understand what led to that pointGuest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 04:21That makes zero sense. So she's telling to go figure it out and she's not going to tell them?Yoda1234567880 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 04:14
Because they haven’t talked to anyone who’s explained how she died yet. Leah didn’t talk about that in her interview. rachel was next. It’s in their hands to extrapolate the story on Nora’s death
Huh. That just gives more indication that all the girls know the agents and the interrogations are fake.
Maybe Shelbald is just Shelby thinking she is bald by extention.
Who knows what narrative tricks this show is playing, especially in the bunker TL. Each girl's episode does appear to be narrated from their own POV, after all.
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Tnr92 new fake dating fic just got updated
https://archiveofourown.org/works/31824 ... s/78880060
https://archiveofourown.org/works/31824 ... s/78880060
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Thanks!!!Guest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 10:00neighbours updated
https://archiveofourown.org/works/30822 ... s/78878143
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daGuest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 17:13Thanks!!!Guest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 10:00neighbours updated
https://archiveofourown.org/works/30822 ... s/78878143
yes thank you! always so freaking good!
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What if the bunker doesn't really exist and it's all in Leah's head? The plane really did accidentally crash, Leah had a full on psychotic break on the island and created this elaborate delusion casting Gretchen from the video they saw as the evil mastermind behind it all rather than accepting that the reality that their plane crashed and the increasingly savage things they need to do to survive
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I've read a theory similar to this. I just can't for the life of me remember what the specifics were. That it's all in Leah's head was the overarching idea of it. It's going way off the deep end of things are not as they appear. Fun though.guest2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 18:25What if the bunker doesn't really exist and it's all in Leah's head? The plane really did accidentally crash, Leah had a full on psychotic break on the island and created this elaborate delusion casting Gretchen from the video they saw as the evil mastermind behind it all rather than accepting that the reality that their plane crashed and the increasingly savage things they need to do to survive
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Explain what of that? I would be possible for things in the TL to be real while other things are not. Leah's experience in the bunker, Martha not being seen in there and Shelby's reaction would have no bearing on a breakdown making Rachel think her hand is missing and Shelby thinking the hair she didn't want is properly gone.Guest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 10:34Explain all the time involving Leah in the bunker, Martha missing, and Shelby's anaphylaxis.Guest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 04:44DA but what if she's actually not? What if it's just a metaphor wrapped up as a trauma response. That scene where they sit on the beach and hold hands could be indication that Rachel came to think of Nora as her right hand man twin sister while on the island and is lost without her.Guest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 04:34What, you think they don't know how she's missing her hand??Yoda1234567880 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 04:26How does it make zero sense it’s a tv show, They’re not gonna make her outright say “oh yeah, she got killed by a shark” cause the viewers won’t understand what led to that pointGuest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 04:21
That makes zero sense. So she's telling to go figure it out and she's not going to tell them?
Huh. That just gives more indication that all the girls know the agents and the interrogations are fake.
Maybe Shelbald is just Shelby thinking she is bald by extention.
Who knows what narrative tricks this show is playing, especially in the bunker TL. Each girl's episode does appear to be narrated from their own POV, after all.
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"From middle of nowhere Minnesota to full superstar status in a year and a half—that’s the Toni Shalifoe story. A more authentic Cara Delevingne, she’s called"Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 01:26Actor AU updated and it’s a good one.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29006 ... s/78897814
I know it's fanfiction but that's really far fetched
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I mean it’s one of the best written Shoni stories out there right now.
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I'm so glad it wasn't abandoned!Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 01:51I mean it’s one of the best written Shoni stories out there right now.
There's a bitter Toni hater who is so bothered even by fanfiction.
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Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 01:29"From middle of nowhere Minnesota to full superstar status in a year and a half—that’s the Toni Shalifoe story. A more authentic Cara Delevingne, she’s called"Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 01:26Actor AU updated and it’s a good one.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29006 ... s/78897814
I know it's fanfiction but that's really far fetched
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OH MY GOD!Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 01:26Actor AU updated and it’s a good one.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29006 ... s/78897814
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS UPDATE FOR LIKE....2 MONTHS?
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Oh I didn’t realize that could be the situation. Weird reaction either way because no name people have starred in films and it isn’t totally unheard of. Even if it was, it’s a great fic.
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I've thought this too. Especially since Leah is our main protagonist and she is already shown as someone a little delusional and very obsessive. They'd have to have some real guts to spin this plot twist though. I don't think they will because they've built such elaborate individual personalities and traumas, and then there's the connections between the girls. Can you imagine how Shoni shippers will react if it's revealed the ship is a figment of someone's imagination?Guest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 18:33I've read a theory similar to this. I just can't for the life of me remember what the specifics were. That it's all in Leah's head was the overarching idea of it. It's going way off the deep end of things are not as they appear. Fun though.guest2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 18:25What if the bunker doesn't really exist and it's all in Leah's head? The plane really did accidentally crash, Leah had a full on psychotic break on the island and created this elaborate delusion casting Gretchen from the video they saw as the evil mastermind behind it all rather than accepting that the reality that their plane crashed and the increasingly savage things they need to do to survive
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Nevermind that. WHY DID THIS CHAPTER END LIKE THAT?!! IT CAN'T BE LEFT LIKE THAT FOR ANOTHER 2 MONTHS!!!Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 03:22OH MY GOD!Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 01:26Actor AU updated and it’s a good one.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29006 ... s/78897814
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS UPDATE FOR LIKE....2 MONTHS?
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You poor sad troll. Let me pop that wish bubble of yours. Amy/Sarah have already confirmed the events are not a hallucination/dream.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 04:55I've thought this too. Especially since Leah is our main protagonist and she is already shown as someone a little delusional and very obsessive. They'd have to have some real guts to spin this plot twist though. I don't think they will because they've built such elaborate individual personalities and traumas, and then there's the connections between the girls. Can you imagine how Shoni shippers will react if it's revealed the ship is a figment of someone's imagination?Guest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 18:33I've read a theory similar to this. I just can't for the life of me remember what the specifics were. That it's all in Leah's head was the overarching idea of it. It's going way off the deep end of things are not as they appear. Fun though.guest2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 18:25What if the bunker doesn't really exist and it's all in Leah's head? The plane really did accidentally crash, Leah had a full on psychotic break on the island and created this elaborate delusion casting Gretchen from the video they saw as the evil mastermind behind it all rather than accepting that the reality that their plane crashed and the increasingly savage things they need to do to survive
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Did you ever notice that when they were discussing Jeanette's second phone that Toni and Martha weren't there?
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It would solve a lot of the holes if the entire thing was in Leah's head because then you can excuse the holes on her just not putting it together perfectly as would be expected, making the holes not really holes at all. But it would wipe so much understood good stuff as you say. If the anon who also replied to you is correct that S&A have ruled it out, then I guess not. No idea why that anon had to be such an prick about it though.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 04:55I've thought this too. Especially since Leah is our main protagonist and she is already shown as someone a little delusional and very obsessive. They'd have to have some real guts to spin this plot twist though. I don't think they will because they've built such elaborate individual personalities and traumas, and then there's the connections between the girls. Can you imagine how Shoni shippers will react if it's revealed the ship is a figment of someone's imagination?Guest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 18:33I've read a theory similar to this. I just can't for the life of me remember what the specifics were. That it's all in Leah's head was the overarching idea of it. It's going way off the deep end of things are not as they appear. Fun though.guest2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 18:25What if the bunker doesn't really exist and it's all in Leah's head? The plane really did accidentally crash, Leah had a full on psychotic break on the island and created this elaborate delusion casting Gretchen from the video they saw as the evil mastermind behind it all rather than accepting that the reality that their plane crashed and the increasingly savage things they need to do to survive
My biggest worry for the holes, and especially in regard to the experiment, is that the writers just haven't made it watertight because they know the plot will never get to the point where Gretchen has to execute all of her plan and pull off the conclusion none of us can really see/make sense of. She is the Big Bad, after all. Surely the girls make her crash and burn. So if it's never going to be that the end is the girls going back to normal lives with no consequences and Gretchen publishes her study to critical acclaim etc, then maybe the writers just haven't written in a strong enough way all that is plausible.
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Yeah I suspect this is the case. The writers' focus was never on the experiment itself during the first season. It was always about the emotional world these girls inhabit and how they could make them play off each other. The whole island thing was just a way of taking them out of the regular world and creating this context where they could come together totally detached from their day to day lives. It never looked like they did much research on how they would explain the science of it all. Gretchen's storyline so far has been an exploration of her motivations, not her methods. Amy and Sarah had said something like Gretchen will have a lot of explaining to do when questions are raised about the logic and ethics behind her experiment, possibly in season 3 (this was during their ig livestream). Gretchen is obviously a little bit insane herself, so they could easily exploit her skewed ideals and inflated ego to say that the experiment was flawed from the beginning because Gretchen got carried away with her prejudice and personal politics and didn't bother to device a foolproof plan or formulate a scientifically sound experiment. So they may never need to plug the holes in the experiment at all. We'll have to wait and see how much importance they place on the experiment in the next season. As of now, the experiment is just a convenient storytelling mechanism that gives them leeway to throw random twists at us and show us character contrast in the before, during, and after.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 07:05It would solve a lot of the holes if the entire thing was in Leah's head because then you can excuse the holes on her just not putting it together perfectly as would be expected, making the holes not really holes at all. But it would wipe so much understood good stuff as you say. If the anon who also replied to you is correct that S&A have ruled it out, then I guess not. No idea why that anon had to be such an prick about it though.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 04:55I've thought this too. Especially since Leah is our main protagonist and she is already shown as someone a little delusional and very obsessive. They'd have to have some real guts to spin this plot twist though. I don't think they will because they've built such elaborate individual personalities and traumas, and then there's the connections between the girls. Can you imagine how Shoni shippers will react if it's revealed the ship is a figment of someone's imagination?Guest wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 18:33I've read a theory similar to this. I just can't for the life of me remember what the specifics were. That it's all in Leah's head was the overarching idea of it. It's going way off the deep end of things are not as they appear. Fun though.guest2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2021, 18:25What if the bunker doesn't really exist and it's all in Leah's head? The plane really did accidentally crash, Leah had a full on psychotic break on the island and created this elaborate delusion casting Gretchen from the video they saw as the evil mastermind behind it all rather than accepting that the reality that their plane crashed and the increasingly savage things they need to do to survive
My biggest worry for the holes, and especially in regard to the experiment, is that the writers just haven't made it watertight because they know the plot will never get to the point where Gretchen has to execute all of her plan and pull off the conclusion none of us can really see/make sense of. She is the Big Bad, after all. Surely the girls make her crash and burn. So if it's never going to be that the end is the girls going back to normal lives with no consequences and Gretchen publishes her study to critical acclaim etc, then maybe the writers just haven't written in a strong enough way all that is plausible.
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woops posted without the link somehowGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 12:24neighbours updated again!
https://archiveofourown.org/works/30822 ... 1#workskin
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Im rewatch now, and I’m in episode 7. I still don’t get what was with the weird dream of Martha? It was so random and not even her episode.. so i still wondering what the meaning of this.
I don’t belive she is dead, but maybe some how drifted from the group.. also I feel like that guy alex is connected to her future story? Cause she dreamed about him and also saw him when she was high..
I don’t belive she is dead, but maybe some how drifted from the group.. also I feel like that guy alex is connected to her future story? Cause she dreamed about him and also saw him when she was high..
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I’m not sure if the dream sequence will have any real meaning. That happened when the tide came in and ruined their camp, and I remember reading an interview with one of the writers that said they moved camp for production reasons not plot reasons, so I think they just made up the tide to give them a reason to move. I have a feeling the dream thing might’ve only been a creative way to show that they were all asleep when the tide washed up unexpectedly.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 16:25Im rewatch now, and I’m in episode 7. I still don’t get what was with the weird dream of Martha? It was so random and not even her episode.. so i still wondering what the meaning of this.
I don’t belive she is dead, but maybe some how drifted from the group.. also I feel like that guy alex is connected to her future story? Cause she dreamed about him and also saw him when she was high..
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DA I think you might be confusing eps. Martha's plane sequence opens ep 7. ep 6 is the food poisoning ep and the last we see of Martha in that is when she wanders off by herself and passes out or whatever it is happens. Very last shot is when she's in Toni's arms and Toni and Shelby argue over who got the pill.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 16:38I’m not sure if the dream sequence will have any real meaning. That happened when the tide came in and ruined their camp, and I remember reading an interview with one of the writers that said they moved camp for production reasons not plot reasons, so I think they just made up the tide to give them a reason to move. I have a feeling the dream thing might’ve only been a creative way to show that they were all asleep when the tide washed up unexpectedly.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 16:25Im rewatch now, and I’m in episode 7. I still don’t get what was with the weird dream of Martha? It was so random and not even her episode.. so i still wondering what the meaning of this.
I don’t belive she is dead, but maybe some how drifted from the group.. also I feel like that guy alex is connected to her future story? Cause she dreamed about him and also saw him when she was high..
It's more fever dream than dream dream. I like the theory she died at this point and everything seen of her afterward is the girls imagining she's still alive. Because we don't actually see her get any of the pills Leah is made to go back into the forest to try and find. I'd roll with the theory if it wasn't for her ep coming after this point. Not sure how that works.
re: the camp move. I remember seeing an insta post of the actual crew/set/whatever being caught by the tide and I've wondered ever since if that and the plot move were connected somehow.
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My take on it is this.. Episode 6 ends without showing us whether Leah and Dot are able to get the medicine for Marty. So the starting dream sequence is meant to mislead us at first, either to think she's dead, or that she's lost consciousness. But maybe she was just high on the meds that Dot found for her and she was hallucinating. Her subconscious mind has caught on to certain details that were sus about the plane crash and it's sort of throwing those images at her. They all passed out after eating the cake that was served on the plane, but before the plane actually crashed, and were then transferred to the island on different boats by Alex while Jeanette was watching over them. Maybe she actually caught a glimpse of him and Jeanette while she was being transferred in her drugged state but doesn't remember it.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 16:25Im rewatch now, and I’m in episode 7. I still don’t get what was with the weird dream of Martha? It was so random and not even her episode.. so i still wondering what the meaning of this.
I don’t belive she is dead, but maybe some how drifted from the group.. also I feel like that guy alex is connected to her future story? Cause she dreamed about him and also saw him when she was high..
Or the whole sequence is not happening in Martha's head. It's just a stylized exposition sequence to tell us what happened during the crash without actually telling us.
Like you said, I think it's interesting that Marty was the one who saw Alex on the island later (again, if it's the second time, while she was high). I have no idea whether that'll lead to some connection in the future, but it's possible.
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damn this chapter was so good! The angst is killing me slowlyGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 12:26woops posted without the link somehowGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 12:24neighbours updated again!
https://archiveofourown.org/works/30822 ... 1#workskin
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Yes, thank you OP for the link.Guest,,, wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 16:54damn this chapter was so good! The angst is killing me slowlyGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 12:26woops posted without the link somehowGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 12:24neighbours updated again!
https://archiveofourown.org/works/30822 ... 1#workskin
And yes, I was just about to post that especially the last part of the Chapter is pure gold and evil at the same time. But it's all sooooo good!
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space au updated! lmao all we need is a curtain call update..
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29722 ... s/78944392
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29722 ... s/78944392
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I actually saw this on tumblerGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 16:25Im rewatch now, and I’m in episode 7. I still don’t get what was with the weird dream of Martha? It was so random and not even her episode.. so i still wondering what the meaning of this.
I don’t belive she is dead, but maybe some how drifted from the group.. also I feel like that guy alex is connected to her future story? Cause she dreamed about him and also saw him when she was high..
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Nah, I think Martha gives it to Toni after shoni come out to her to show her support. They can sell it when they get off the island and build a life together away from Shelby's family type of deal.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 18:43I actually saw this on tumblerGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 16:25Im rewatch now, and I’m in episode 7. I still don’t get what was with the weird dream of Martha? It was so random and not even her episode.. so i still wondering what the meaning of this.
I don’t belive she is dead, but maybe some how drifted from the group.. also I feel like that guy alex is connected to her future story? Cause she dreamed about him and also saw him when she was high..
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Na I don’t think they will kill her and Nora it’s to much. I think Nora is dead and Martha is probably injured or lost in island or it’s just red hearingGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 18:43I actually saw this on tumblerGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 16:25Im rewatch now, and I’m in episode 7. I still don’t get what was with the weird dream of Martha? It was so random and not even her episode.. so i still wondering what the meaning of this.
I don’t belive she is dead, but maybe some how drifted from the group.. also I feel like that guy alex is connected to her future story? Cause she dreamed about him and also saw him when she was high..
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Well yeah, the boys don't want to be accused of being gay having Markus's bump on display.
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You know, I’ve been thinking maybe Martha won’t have a good reaction to Shoni. Not because of any weird homophobic reasons but maybe because of the circumstances stances they are in and because she’ll be the third wheel. If Shoni keep things hidden for a while or on the DL and Martha finds out accidentally, I could see her being hurt and a little peeved that her best friend and the girl she’s connected to the most, not to mention the two she thought hated each other, are sneaking around behind everyone’s back. I could also see her (or maybe even Dot) being concerned that maybe that two starting a relationship when they’re in such a dire place and time might not be the smartest. They’re facing life and death every day and if they break up or have drama than it makes for bad dynamics and they already face enough issues just trying to survive the island.
That said, I think Martha would eventually come around and if Shoni go long term or continue post-island, the three of them become a pseudo family to each other. I’m just thinking Shoni will face drama and one way may be shifting dynamics and possible uneasy-ness between characters. Like forcing Toni to be either at odds with Martha or uncomfortable-ness and Shelby being caught in the middle and feeling guilty.
Whatever happens I can’t wait to see the others reactions when they’re relationship is revealed.
That said, I think Martha would eventually come around and if Shoni go long term or continue post-island, the three of them become a pseudo family to each other. I’m just thinking Shoni will face drama and one way may be shifting dynamics and possible uneasy-ness between characters. Like forcing Toni to be either at odds with Martha or uncomfortable-ness and Shelby being caught in the middle and feeling guilty.
Whatever happens I can’t wait to see the others reactions when they’re relationship is revealed.
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Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 17:41space au updated! lmao all we need is a curtain call update..
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29722 ... s/78944392
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought this was abandoned! Yesterday the actors AU, today space AU. Is it the luckiest week of the year?
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I believe that Martha will cause a problems for Shoni but I think it’s because Martha will start to go crazy as time will go(after the goat and the acceptance of her being sexually abused) and it will make it difficult for Toni.also that’s why she probably isn’t in the interviewsGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 21:27You know, I’ve been thinking maybe Martha won’t have a good reaction to Shoni. Not because of any weird homophobic reasons but maybe because of the circumstances stances they are in and because she’ll be the third wheel. If Shoni keep things hidden for a while or on the DL and Martha finds out accidentally, I could see her being hurt and a little peeved that her best friend and the girl she’s connected to the most, not to mention the two she thought hated each other, are sneaking around behind everyone’s back. I could also see her (or maybe even Dot) being concerned that maybe that two starting a relationship when they’re in such a dire place and time might not be the smartest. They’re facing life and death every day and if they break up or have drama than it makes for bad dynamics and they already face enough issues just trying to survive the island.
That said, I think Martha would eventually come around and if Shoni go long term or continue post-island, the three of them become a pseudo family to each other. I’m just thinking Shoni will face drama and one way may be shifting dynamics and possible uneasy-ness between characters. Like forcing Toni to be either at odds with Martha or uncomfortable-ness and Shelby being caught in the middle and feeling guilty.
Whatever happens I can’t wait to see the others reactions when they’re relationship is revealed.
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Hell yeah.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 17:41space au updated! lmao all we need is a curtain call update..
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29722 ... s/78944392
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Definitely can see Martha go all bad from the good girl and maybe turn on Shelby which cause Tensions between Toni and Shelby.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 21:54I believe that Martha will cause a problems for Shoni but I think it’s because Martha will start to go crazy as time will go(after the goat and the acceptance of her being sexually abused) and it will make it difficult for Toni.also that’s why she probably isn’t in the interviewsGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 21:27You know, I’ve been thinking maybe Martha won’t have a good reaction to Shoni. Not because of any weird homophobic reasons but maybe because of the circumstances stances they are in and because she’ll be the third wheel. If Shoni keep things hidden for a while or on the DL and Martha finds out accidentally, I could see her being hurt and a little peeved that her best friend and the girl she’s connected to the most, not to mention the two she thought hated each other, are sneaking around behind everyone’s back. I could also see her (or maybe even Dot) being concerned that maybe that two starting a relationship when they’re in such a dire place and time might not be the smartest. They’re facing life and death every day and if they break up or have drama than it makes for bad dynamics and they already face enough issues just trying to survive the island.
That said, I think Martha would eventually come around and if Shoni go long term or continue post-island, the three of them become a pseudo family to each other. I’m just thinking Shoni will face drama and one way may be shifting dynamics and possible uneasy-ness between characters. Like forcing Toni to be either at odds with Martha or uncomfortable-ness and Shelby being caught in the middle and feeling guilty.
Whatever happens I can’t wait to see the others reactions when they’re relationship is revealed.
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That's completely out of character for MarthaGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 22:12Definitely can see Martha go all bad from the good girl and maybe turn on Shelby which cause Tensions between Toni and Shelby.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 21:54I believe that Martha will cause a problems for Shoni but I think it’s because Martha will start to go crazy as time will go(after the goat and the acceptance of her being sexually abused) and it will make it difficult for Toni.also that’s why she probably isn’t in the interviewsGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 21:27You know, I’ve been thinking maybe Martha won’t have a good reaction to Shoni. Not because of any weird homophobic reasons but maybe because of the circumstances stances they are in and because she’ll be the third wheel. If Shoni keep things hidden for a while or on the DL and Martha finds out accidentally, I could see her being hurt and a little peeved that her best friend and the girl she’s connected to the most, not to mention the two she thought hated each other, are sneaking around behind everyone’s back. I could also see her (or maybe even Dot) being concerned that maybe that two starting a relationship when they’re in such a dire place and time might not be the smartest. They’re facing life and death every day and if they break up or have drama than it makes for bad dynamics and they already face enough issues just trying to survive the island.
That said, I think Martha would eventually come around and if Shoni go long term or continue post-island, the three of them become a pseudo family to each other. I’m just thinking Shoni will face drama and one way may be shifting dynamics and possible uneasy-ness between characters. Like forcing Toni to be either at odds with Martha or uncomfortable-ness and Shelby being caught in the middle and feeling guilty.
Whatever happens I can’t wait to see the others reactions when they’re relationship is revealed.
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It really is super cute!
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This is going to have to happen via someone and not just because it makes sense for growth but because of the perjury thing. I was thinking about it recently. That she has perjured herself came about from Young looking in the box - either the box contained evidence of discussion of the subject which was then pieced together with her existing file, which would have included reference to the trail, and 'perjury' is his conclusion, or the box contained reference to a legal conclusion of perjury.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 21:54I believe that Martha will cause a problems for Shoni but I think it’s because Martha will start to go crazy as time will go(after the goat and the acceptance of her being sexually abused) and it will make it difficult for Toni.also that’s why she probably isn’t in the interviewsGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 21:27You know, I’ve been thinking maybe Martha won’t have a good reaction to Shoni. Not because of any weird homophobic reasons but maybe because of the circumstances stances they are in and because she’ll be the third wheel. If Shoni keep things hidden for a while or on the DL and Martha finds out accidentally, I could see her being hurt and a little peeved that her best friend and the girl she’s connected to the most, not to mention the two she thought hated each other, are sneaking around behind everyone’s back. I could also see her (or maybe even Dot) being concerned that maybe that two starting a relationship when they’re in such a dire place and time might not be the smartest. They’re facing life and death every day and if they break up or have drama than it makes for bad dynamics and they already face enough issues just trying to survive the island.
That said, I think Martha would eventually come around and if Shoni go long term or continue post-island, the three of them become a pseudo family to each other. I’m just thinking Shoni will face drama and one way may be shifting dynamics and possible uneasy-ness between characters. Like forcing Toni to be either at odds with Martha or uncomfortable-ness and Shelby being caught in the middle and feeling guilty.
Whatever happens I can’t wait to see the others reactions when they’re relationship is revealed.
I know there's been debate on how much perjury of the 'lied that I wasn't molested' kind (as opposed to 'lied that this man molested me when he never kind) could possibly turn the situation in Gretchen's favor, but it would be even less useful to her if the courts already know Martha gave false testimony.
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Not sure if it's just the picture editing, but does Shannon really have two different colored eyes?
I myself have a condition where my irises are primarily blue with the slightest bit of brown around my pupils.
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I think it's your eyesight. Dot's eyes are the same color in that pic.
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Here's a closer look...Guest wrote: ↑12 Jun 2021, 07:37I think it's your eyesight. Dot's eyes are the same color in that pic.
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I really does depend on her age, and how much of an impact she had on the arrest, charge and conviction on him. If Martha lied about him doing it, in terms in he never touched her, can give his lawyer some grounds for appeal. If she lied and he did do it to her as well, if they had a conviction again highly unlikely they come after a charge.Guest wrote: ↑12 Jun 2021, 03:11This is going to have to happen via someone and not just because it makes sense for growth but because of the perjury thing. I was thinking about it recently. That she has perjured herself came about from Young looking in the box - either the box contained evidence of discussion of the subject which was then pieced together with her existing file, which would have included reference to the trail, and 'perjury' is his conclusion, or the box contained reference to a legal conclusion of perjury.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 21:54I believe that Martha will cause a problems for Shoni but I think it’s because Martha will start to go crazy as time will go(after the goat and the acceptance of her being sexually abused) and it will make it difficult for Toni.also that’s why she probably isn’t in the interviewsGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 21:27You know, I’ve been thinking maybe Martha won’t have a good reaction to Shoni. Not because of any weird homophobic reasons but maybe because of the circumstances stances they are in and because she’ll be the third wheel. If Shoni keep things hidden for a while or on the DL and Martha finds out accidentally, I could see her being hurt and a little peeved that her best friend and the girl she’s connected to the most, not to mention the two she thought hated each other, are sneaking around behind everyone’s back. I could also see her (or maybe even Dot) being concerned that maybe that two starting a relationship when they’re in such a dire place and time might not be the smartest. They’re facing life and death every day and if they break up or have drama than it makes for bad dynamics and they already face enough issues just trying to survive the island.
That said, I think Martha would eventually come around and if Shoni go long term or continue post-island, the three of them become a pseudo family to each other. I’m just thinking Shoni will face drama and one way may be shifting dynamics and possible uneasy-ness between characters. Like forcing Toni to be either at odds with Martha or uncomfortable-ness and Shelby being caught in the middle and feeling guilty.
Whatever happens I can’t wait to see the others reactions when they’re relationship is revealed.
I know there's been debate on how much perjury of the 'lied that I wasn't molested' kind (as opposed to 'lied that this man molested me when he never kind) could possibly turn the situation in Gretchen's favor, but it would be even less useful to her if the courts already know Martha gave false testimony.
In her case there's other things to charge her with, giving a false statement, perverting the course of justice, yet again her age really does depend on it, cause pretty much over 12 they can, between 16-17 they could treat her as an adult.
So I don't think what gretchen will be threatening would be a criminal conviction, it'll be more Martha wouldn't want it coming out what the doctor did do to her.
In terms of Martha being a problem between shoni. The only think I can see is Martha straight up ignored shelby after the homophobic comment. I can see her either thinking she's using Toni, cause Toni falls hard and quickly, or she thinks she was used to get to Toni. Her ignoring or being frosty with shelby are in character. And if she is ignoring shelby and telling Toni one of them was used, I can see to I and Martha having a issue.
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I got to see a lot of Martha theories almost al of them talking about something bad will happen to her(dead injured coma crazy lost) but I have to say that it’s so weird to me that Toni was so calm in her interview if somthing like this happen to Martha.. so I clearly thing Martha will be ok. Definitely not dead.Guest wrote: ↑12 Jun 2021, 09:00I really does depend on her age, and how much of an impact she had on the arrest, charge and conviction on him. If Martha lied about him doing it, in terms in he never touched her, can give his lawyer some grounds for appeal. If she lied and he did do it to her as well, if they had a conviction again highly unlikely they come after a charge.Guest wrote: ↑12 Jun 2021, 03:11This is going to have to happen via someone and not just because it makes sense for growth but because of the perjury thing. I was thinking about it recently. That she has perjured herself came about from Young looking in the box - either the box contained evidence of discussion of the subject which was then pieced together with her existing file, which would have included reference to the trail, and 'perjury' is his conclusion, or the box contained reference to a legal conclusion of perjury.Guest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 21:54I believe that Martha will cause a problems for Shoni but I think it’s because Martha will start to go crazy as time will go(after the goat and the acceptance of her being sexually abused) and it will make it difficult for Toni.also that’s why she probably isn’t in the interviewsGuest wrote: ↑11 Jun 2021, 21:27You know, I’ve been thinking maybe Martha won’t have a good reaction to Shoni. Not because of any weird homophobic reasons but maybe because of the circumstances stances they are in and because she’ll be the third wheel. If Shoni keep things hidden for a while or on the DL and Martha finds out accidentally, I could see her being hurt and a little peeved that her best friend and the girl she’s connected to the most, not to mention the two she thought hated each other, are sneaking around behind everyone’s back. I could also see her (or maybe even Dot) being concerned that maybe that two starting a relationship when they’re in such a dire place and time might not be the smartest. They’re facing life and death every day and if they break up or have drama than it makes for bad dynamics and they already face enough issues just trying to survive the island.
That said, I think Martha would eventually come around and if Shoni go long term or continue post-island, the three of them become a pseudo family to each other. I’m just thinking Shoni will face drama and one way may be shifting dynamics and possible uneasy-ness between characters. Like forcing Toni to be either at odds with Martha or uncomfortable-ness and Shelby being caught in the middle and feeling guilty.
Whatever happens I can’t wait to see the others reactions when they’re relationship is revealed.
I know there's been debate on how much perjury of the 'lied that I wasn't molested' kind (as opposed to 'lied that this man molested me when he never kind) could possibly turn the situation in Gretchen's favor, but it would be even less useful to her if the courts already know Martha gave false testimony.
In her case there's other things to charge her with, giving a false statement, perverting the course of justice, yet again her age really does depend on it, cause pretty much over 12 they can, between 16-17 they could treat her as an adult.
So I don't think what gretchen will be threatening would be a criminal conviction, it'll be more Martha wouldn't want it coming out what the doctor did do to her.
In terms of Martha being a problem between shoni. The only think I can see is Martha straight up ignored shelby after the homophobic comment. I can see her either thinking she's using Toni, cause Toni falls hard and quickly, or she thinks she was used to get to Toni. Her ignoring or being frosty with shelby are in character. And if she is ignoring shelby and telling Toni one of them was used, I can see to I and Martha having a issue.
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