Yeah, must not apply to Marina's storyline because how in the world is it being treated with love and care? They really think we're stupidGuest wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 19:12Did you all see Zaviars tweets?
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I'm surprised it's been acknowledged.. but also.. it should be. However, it just means nothing, the fact they have been and are treating the sl how they have, is just too late. How the f did they think it was ok in the first place?!Guest wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 19:12Did you all see Zaviars tweets?
Likleyhood is that it's multiple experiences that have been mashed together and actually become something opposite of relatable or representative and no-one has taken a step back and seen it for what it is.
I'd be interested to know if they actually can see what a mess it is, now that it's been pointed out.
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I feel like he tried to generalize it and put a bunch of topics in the tweets so it wasn't just about Marina's storyline which is what people are most upset about. I mean Tremmett fans are probably upset too but it felt like he was just casually trying to cover up it being about Marina. I feel like they still don't get it and are still going to continue doing the storyline how they want. If Jack is the donor then next season will be about his role in the baby's life. I doubt that changes suddenly.
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Can you guys share his tweets if you’re gonna talk about them lol
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"Queer women and men" obviously the MEN part has prevailed bc 99% of the Marina fandom is against this bs.
This is basically "we've been hearing you but we're not really listening because we're doing whatever tf we want".
This is basically "we've been hearing you but we're not really listening because we're doing whatever tf we want".
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I grant him the fact of being the only one to admit that he has read tweets and that he knows that there are people upset with what he is doing.guest wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 21:44
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He said “I see you all yelling but its okay because we have queer people in the writers room”
Aka we are right and we don’t care what you say.
Aka we are right and we don’t care what you say.
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Exactly. I don’t think a single thing will change sadly.Guest wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 23:10He said “I see you all yelling but its okay because we have queer people in the writers room”
Aka we are right and we don’t care what you say.
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I think that those of his generation already have an inability to say "gay", "homosexual" or "bisexual" LMAOGuest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 00:26“Queer” is always a red flag for me.
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You’re not wrongGuest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 00:26“Queer” is always a red flag for me.
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What's interesting to me is how late the backlash is, some of us have said last season and the one before that the writing was offensive, inconsistent and had no continuation. Some criticism was done in this very same thread and we got called pessimistic and trolls. But you can always tell the red flags with such shows, if they had the audacity to have Maya cheat and we continued to watch then ofc they were going to do even worse.
There were always reasons to call them out, the lack of substance when it comes to Carina, the lack of screentime and the imbalance when it comes to Marina scenes vs the straight scenes. Gay men can't write wlw stories because they are obsessed with men and make it all about them and the fact that this talentless dude used the word "queer" tells you it's a bunch of straight people and gay men claiming to be edgy and calling themselves queer to silence us. The show as a whole is hot garbage, idk why they haven't fired the whole writers' room and Krista yet.
Ps i don't watch the show anymore, i used to watch it before Marina was even a thing. I just keep hearing about what happened from Twitter and here.
There were always reasons to call them out, the lack of substance when it comes to Carina, the lack of screentime and the imbalance when it comes to Marina scenes vs the straight scenes. Gay men can't write wlw stories because they are obsessed with men and make it all about them and the fact that this talentless dude used the word "queer" tells you it's a bunch of straight people and gay men claiming to be edgy and calling themselves queer to silence us. The show as a whole is hot garbage, idk why they haven't fired the whole writers' room and Krista yet.
Ps i don't watch the show anymore, i used to watch it before Marina was even a thing. I just keep hearing about what happened from Twitter and here.
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da And "lesbian" is the dirtiest word.
Honestly idgaf about what these "queer" writers deem to be acceptable and "done with care and love", I want LESBIAN writers and bisexual female writers who have been in serious relationships with other women.
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Queer has always meant just a weirdo. In the past when it was used as an insult and in the present when it's considered a badge of honor. So he might as well say "don't worry about a storyline portraying a romantic relationship between two women, because we have a lot of weirdos in the writing room". Hooray, what a calming thought.
Not to mention he doesn't even mention women, he mentions people. Imagine they write a disrespectful storyline to the black community, they'd never use "we have a half Chinese writer in our staff, dontchu worry you guys!!", but somehow "qUeErS" and different groups in the LGBT community are always interchangeable.
Not to mention he doesn't even mention women, he mentions people. Imagine they write a disrespectful storyline to the black community, they'd never use "we have a half Chinese writer in our staff, dontchu worry you guys!!", but somehow "qUeErS" and different groups in the LGBT community are always interchangeable.
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As someone on Reddit/Twitter mentioned, if any of those queer people in the writers room m think two women need a man to complete their family, then we’re in trouble. As the dialogues sure seem to suggest that.
And for me it’s kinda as simple as that.
And for me it’s kinda as simple as that.
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I have to agree with you about this "talentless dude"..don't think he could right his way out of a paper bag...for him to write and get Carina to say Jack is handsome I nearly threw up in my cornflakes (I'm in oz)..would have loved to be a fly on the wall when Danielle and Stefania did the read through for that script and it's probably gonna get worse before it gets better...cannot wait for him to do "the deed"...I'm sure they will try and make it fun...we can all laugh together.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 03:29What's interesting to me is how late the backlash is, some of us have said last season and the one before that the writing was offensive, inconsistent and had no continuation. Some criticism was done in this very same thread and we got called pessimistic and trolls. But you can always tell the red flags with such shows, if they had the audacity to have Maya cheat and we continued to watch then ofc they were going to do even worse.
There were always reasons to call them out, the lack of substance when it comes to Carina, the lack of screentime and the imbalance when it comes to Marina scenes vs the straight scenes. Gay men can't write wlw stories because they are obsessed with men and make it all about them and the fact that this talentless dude used the word "queer" tells you it's a bunch of straight people and gay men claiming to be edgy and calling themselves queer to silence us. The show as a whole is hot garbage, idk why they haven't fired the whole writers' room and Krista yet.
Ps i don't watch the show anymore, i used to watch it before Marina was even a thing. I just keep hearing about what happened from Twitter and here.
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Hi How do you know if she enjoyed filming episode 17 ? Did you see behind the scene pictures ? I saw pictures but we don't know which episode it was !Guest wrote: ↑02 Apr 2022, 19:45
The only thing we can slightly hope for is something good in episode 17 because Stefania is enjoying filming it but I can't imagine what it could be.
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No, I don't know if she enjoyed filming that episode, I just know that she said that in episode 17 something happens to Carina that for Stefania is her favorite moment about her journey in the season.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 09:34Hi How do you know if she enjoyed filming episode 17 ? Did you see behind the scene pictures ? I saw pictures but we don't know which episode it was !Guest wrote: ↑02 Apr 2022, 19:45
The only thing we can slightly hope for is something good in episode 17 because Stefania is enjoying filming it but I can't imagine what it could be.
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Thank you so much for your answerGuest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 10:10No, I don't know if she enjoyed filming that episode, I just know that she said that in episode 17 something happens to Carina that for Stefania is her favorite moment about her journey in the season.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 09:34Hi How do you know if she enjoyed filming episode 17 ? Did you see behind the scene pictures ? I saw pictures but we don't know which episode it was !Guest wrote: ↑02 Apr 2022, 19:45
The only thing we can slightly hope for is something good in episode 17 because Stefania is enjoying filming it but I can't imagine what it could be.
I guess i missed that interview
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You’re welcome. It wasn’t an interview, it was in Zaiver takeover. HereGuest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 10:38Thank you so much for your answerGuest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 10:10No, I don't know if she enjoyed filming that episode, I just know that she said that in episode 17 something happens to Carina that for Stefania is her favorite moment about her journey in the season.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 09:34Hi How do you know if she enjoyed filming episode 17 ? Did you see behind the scene pictures ? I saw pictures but we don't know which episode it was !Guest wrote: ↑02 Apr 2022, 19:45
The only thing we can slightly hope for is something good in episode 17 because Stefania is enjoying filming it but I can't imagine what it could be.
I guess i missed that interview
https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h ... =copy_link
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Thank you so muchGuest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 10:43You’re welcome. It wasn’t an interview, it was in Zaiver takeover. HereGuest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 10:38Thank you so much for your answerGuest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 10:10No, I don't know if she enjoyed filming that episode, I just know that she said that in episode 17 something happens to Carina that for Stefania is her favorite moment about her journey in the season.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 09:34Hi How do you know if she enjoyed filming episode 17 ? Did you see behind the scene pictures ? I saw pictures but we don't know which episode it was !Guest wrote: ↑02 Apr 2022, 19:45
The only thing we can slightly hope for is something good in episode 17 because Stefania is enjoying filming it but I can't imagine what it could be.
I guess i missed that interview
https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h ... =copy_link
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Looks like someone here spread the word on Reddit about Jack donating his sperm at Marina's house and the whole breakfast thing. It has reached Twitter and as a result of that is that Zaiver wrote those tweets LMAO
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Every episode that Zaiver guy has written was pure garbage, how do these people get hired? Do you just show up and get the job? Because they clearly have no standards
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The whole thing has become such a joke.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 11:11Looks like someone here spread the word on Reddit about Jack donating his sperm at Marina's house and the whole breakfast thing. It has reached Twitter and as a result of that is that Zaiver wrote those tweets LMAO
So disappointing, knowing how much D/S were excited about the sl and everyone is completely over it.. and it’s barely started.
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Twitter is really going to explode once that scene happens. Especially since you know dumbass Jack is going to make a joke about it and I think the person said he mentions porn or something. These writers really just said let’s just make this as disrespectful as possible and tried to make it “comedic” in the process. I can’t believe Danielle and Stefania have to do this too. I feel terrible for them.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 11:11Looks like someone here spread the word on Reddit about Jack donating his sperm at Marina's house and the whole breakfast thing. It has reached Twitter and as a result of that is that Zaiver wrote those tweets LMAO
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That scene is going to be f-ing horrendous. Such a massive shame because it likely would be a lovely scene if it was just Maya and Carina having an intimate moment. Not looking forward to it all. (which is insane for me considering how much I want pretty much any scene they have together)Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 11:34Twitter is really going to explode once that scene happens. Especially since you know dumbass Jack is going to make a joke about it and I think the person said he mentions porn or something. These writers really just said let’s just make this as disrespectful as possible and tried to make it “comedic” in the process. I can’t believe Danielle and Stefania have to do this too. I feel terrible for them.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 11:11Looks like someone here spread the word on Reddit about Jack donating his sperm at Marina's house and the whole breakfast thing. It has reached Twitter and as a result of that is that Zaiver wrote those tweets LMAO
It's comical how badly they've messed this up. Not only are the destroying their biggest asset on the show; Marina, they are now gonna make that fandom hate Jack and anytime they're in a scene together.
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Wait that scene is actually real?? I thought it was a troll. How the hell is that real? It makes ZERO sense, even by overly dramatic GA standards
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There's not actual proof..just bts and the poster here. I think people are so done that it seems entirely plausible (in a completely implausible way) that it could actually happen.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 12:11Wait that scene is actually real?? I thought it was a troll. How the hell is that real? It makes ZERO sense, even by overly dramatic GA standards
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Another ridiculous thing about this season/5b. We've been screaming out for more Carina screentime. They come up with the clinic idea and actually make her a part of the whole idea in making it work. There's been two episodes where the clinic happened, and she had NO screen time, or even seen working in the clinic?! wtf.
They just keep telling us about all the time she's spent working with jack and talking to Jack. They've even made that whole plot about him and essentially being the donor, and barely about the actual clinic.
They still don't know how to incorporate Carina into the show in her own right as a character. They even have the opportunity with the clinic and just can't do it.
They just keep telling us about all the time she's spent working with jack and talking to Jack. They've even made that whole plot about him and essentially being the donor, and barely about the actual clinic.
They still don't know how to incorporate Carina into the show in her own right as a character. They even have the opportunity with the clinic and just can't do it.
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Yeah at this point I can see it happening. I mean look at what they’ve had Maya and Carina say recently. You really don’t think they’ll have Jack come over and make a joke about porn and say he’ll go donate in the guest room and Maya and Carina will laugh and wait in the kitchen or something? I wouldn’t put that past these idiot writers at this point.
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Ugh this. It’s like 4A all over again but at least we got cute Marina when Carina was only on screen a minute per episode. Now she’s barely on and when she is she’s praising Jack. It’s so gross. It’s like they forgot she’s a regular again. It’s so pathetic they have no clue what to do with her. They come up with the clinic idea and then make it about Jack. And now it’s probably gonna get closed down anyway thanks to Dixon so there goes that. The show is just embarrassing at this point.guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 12:55Another ridiculous thing about this season/5b. We've been screaming out for more Carina screentime. They come up with the clinic idea and actually make her a part of the whole idea in making it work. There's been two episodes where the clinic happened, and she had NO screen time, or even seen working in the clinic?! wtf.
They just keep telling us about all the time she's spent working with jack and talking to Jack. They've even made that whole plot about him and essentially being the donor, and barely about the actual clinic.
They still don't know how to incorporate Carina into the show in her own right as a character. They even have the opportunity with the clinic and just can't do it.
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From bts we know the three are going to have a scene in maya/carina house and the anon then shared the "spoiler".guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 12:34There's not actual proof..just bts and the poster here. I think people are so done that it seems entirely plausible (in a completely implausible way) that it could actually happen.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 12:11Wait that scene is actually real?? I thought it was a troll. How the hell is that real? It makes ZERO sense, even by overly dramatic GA standards
At first, no one believed them and personally a part of me stills doesnt because it would cross every line and adding to that the process should be done at a clinic but as the season goes on and you see the horrible storytelling it would not surprise me if they went in that direction.
But if its does happen, twitter will crash and burn, it will be so bad but that happens on e16 (i think) so we have this week episode and then a few weeks break before the show comes back on again, so if they are smart they could reshoot the scene or just erase it.
At this point, they have known and felt the anger towards this storyline and should have made adjustments to the story but lets see. I still believe Carina wont get pregnant this season, so we will have to wait for season 6 to see how it all plays out.
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What do you guys think ep 17 is about since that’s what Stefania has pointed out about Carinas journey so far? The obvious answer seems to be starting the pregnancy process but that seems really fast though it would be like these writers to rush through the rest after spending so much time on the donor. If Jack “donates” in ep 16 then I guess they can start the process in 17
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Right?! People fawn over him on social media because he interacts and he's liked by the cast, but dear Lord he can't write to save his life.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 11:17Every episode that Zaiver guy has written was pure garbage, how do these people get hired? Do you just show up and get the job? Because they clearly have no standards
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What do we think of Stefania RTing Zaiver's tweets?
I'm losing all hope of this ending in a semi-non-disgusting way.
I'm losing all hope of this ending in a semi-non-disgusting way.
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That’s a bummer honestly but I guess we can’t blame her. She has no choice but to go along with it. Though she didn’t really have to retweet it. I don’t get the hype with that man at all but they all love him for some reason.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:16What do we think of Stefania RTing Zaiver's tweets?
I'm losing all hope of this ending in a semi-non-disgusting way.
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Jack is the donor and honestly im questioning more and more if the actors actually are okay with it and see no harm.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:16What do we think of Stefania RTing Zaiver's tweets?
I'm losing all hope of this ending in a semi-non-disgusting way.
Im done with this shit.
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She really did?? Lets wait and see. I really can't believe they are going with this. Its unbelievable.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:16What do we think of Stefania RTing Zaiver's tweets?
I'm losing all hope of this ending in a semi-non-disgusting way.
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I dont know, the most obvious answer could be starting the process of getting pregnant but i dont know. At this point, it could literally be anything.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 14:19What do you guys think ep 17 is about since that’s what Stefania has pointed out about Carinas journey so far? The obvious answer seems to be starting the pregnancy process but that seems really fast though it would be like these writers to rush through the rest after spending so much time on the donor. If Jack “donates” in ep 16 then I guess they can start the process in 17
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I can't believe there are people there, gay or straight who would agree on having the sperm of the person their wife partner, cheated with, seriously. In what universe is this normal?? And to say this is supported by Queer people?? Im sorry but lesbians will never support this. No two strong women don't need a man to complete their family. They don't need uncles aunts, parents, nope. They can do it on their own. Especially a doctor and an Olympian. Women. So nope. Non of this storyline makes sense. Its just patriarchy promotion. As for Stefania to rt this, who is surprised really? Supposedly strong independent woman who nonstop promotes her bf. Anyway. We will see what happens.
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I use the term queer for myself and can assure you I am not a red flag.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 00:26“Queer” is always a red flag for me.
Marina 5b has been horrendous, no real connection between maya and carina, quick little chats while at work and putting a man at the centre of their baby journey, it’s all so wrong.
This is about two women in love having a baby and literally the only thing we have seen them discuss (briefly on scene) for 6 episodes is sperm. It’s infuriating.
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Yeah same.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:21That’s a bummer honestly but I guess we can’t blame her. She has no choice but to go along with it. Though she didn’t really have to retweet it. I don’t get the hype with that man at all but they all love him for some reason.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:16What do we think of Stefania RTing Zaiver's tweets?
I'm losing all hope of this ending in a semi-non-disgusting way.
I'm not taking it as she agrees with the storyline, but more solidarity for the team. (though who knows!)
she's barely on twitter she could have just left it, now it's gonna be even more of a thing.
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Da That would really be the worst. Imagine if Danielle and Stefania actually are okay with this but they just know we hate it and that’s why they’re silent? That’s the fear with having two actresses who may not be lgbtq+ representing the community. I don’t think they realize how disrespectful or harmful it really is. Plus they love working with Grey clearly so I could see them being on board sadly.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:22Jack is the donor and honestly im questioning more and more if the actors actually are okay with it and see no harm.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:16What do we think of Stefania RTing Zaiver's tweets?
I'm losing all hope of this ending in a semi-non-disgusting way.
Im done with this shit.
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DA. i'm not sure either. I got a bit confused as i thought that ep 17 was the one with the BTS of D&S hugging at home, when she's wearing the purple jumper/breakfast scene. But actually seems like that is ep16, as both her and Danielle were wearing different clothes in the lives with Zavier. So there are two different scenes that stefania possibly has more than 30secs.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:30I dont know, the most obvious answer could be starting the process of getting pregnant but i dont know. At this point, it could literally be anything.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 14:19What do you guys think ep 17 is about since that’s what Stefania has pointed out about Carinas journey so far? The obvious answer seems to be starting the pregnancy process but that seems really fast though it would be like these writers to rush through the rest after spending so much time on the donor. If Jack “donates” in ep 16 then I guess they can start the process in 17
If Jack does do his thing in ep 16, i would expect they would have to do the insemination the same day/ep. So unsure what ep 17 would involve..
Which ep do you think is the one scandalmakeup posted, where just D&S were outside together? Maybe that's this week.
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I mean.. i'm sure people have seen this already but at 52:30mins in.. Grey and Danielle are on board with it. That was like over 18months ago. Danielle did seem a bit hesitant to be fair.. but.. then went with it.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:48Da That would really be the worst. Imagine if Danielle and Stefania actually are okay with this but they just know we hate it and that’s why they’re silent? That’s the fear with having two actresses who may not be lgbtq+ representing the community. I don’t think they realize how disrespectful or harmful it really is. Plus they love working with Grey clearly so I could see them being on board sadly.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:22Jack is the donor and honestly im questioning more and more if the actors actually are okay with it and see no harm.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:16What do we think of Stefania RTing Zaiver's tweets?
I'm losing all hope of this ending in a semi-non-disgusting way.
Im done with this shit.
Have to bare in mind a lot has happened since then.. but the cheating itself must have happened pretty close to when they did it and thought it would be ok if they were 'homies'
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The outside pic is for this week ep, you can see it in the promo with Jack.guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:57DA. i'm not sure either. I got a bit confused as i thought that ep 17 was the one with the BTS of D&S hugging at home, when she's wearing the purple jumper/breakfast scene. But actually seems like that is ep16, as both her and Danielle were wearing different clothes in the lives with Zavier. So there are two different scenes that stefania possibly has more than 30secs.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:30I dont know, the most obvious answer could be starting the process of getting pregnant but i dont know. At this point, it could literally be anything.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 14:19What do you guys think ep 17 is about since that’s what Stefania has pointed out about Carinas journey so far? The obvious answer seems to be starting the pregnancy process but that seems really fast though it would be like these writers to rush through the rest after spending so much time on the donor. If Jack “donates” in ep 16 then I guess they can start the process in 17
If Jack does do his thing in ep 16, i would expect they would have to do the insemination the same day/ep. So unsure what ep 17 would involve..
Which ep do you think is the one scandalmakeup posted, where just D&S were outside together? Maybe that's this week.
The photo they posted with d and s hugging is actually from ep16 and the scene with Jack.
The photo grey posted a while back of him in their apartment, the outfit seems the same, at least danielle is using the same shirt.
I think the only part of the process they are going to show is the donor part. Everything else will not be shown.
Even if carina starts the insemination process, I bet they won't even show the scene, but yeah it's just another inconsistency, they spend 6 ep on the donor but everything else will not be shown or rushed.
Which makes me think they actually knew the storyline would not be accepted and were just trying to gain the support by reinforcing the idea.
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Jack is the donor and honestly im questioning more and more if the actors actually are okay with it and see no harm.
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Da That would really be the worst. Imagine if Danielle and Stefania actually are okay with this but they just know we hate it and that’s why they’re silent? That’s the fear with having two actresses who may not be lgbtq+ representing the community. I don’t think they realize how disrespectful or harmful it really is. Plus they love working with Grey clearly so I could see them being on board sadly.
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I mean.. i'm sure people have seen this already but at 52:30mins in.. Grey and Danielle are on board with it. That was like over 18months ago. Danielle did seem a bit hesitant to be fair.. but.. then went with it.
Have to bare in mind a lot has happened since then.. but the cheating itself must have happened pretty close to when they did it and thought it would be ok if they were 'homies'
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After this who knows?
Either they took his idea or the actors really advocated for it.
But at the same time, danielle did tweet during the episode where carina says no no no to Jack idea that was the appropriate reaction.
At this point, I just want this to be over with and if he really is the donor for him to not have the father role
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Jack is the donor and honestly im questioning more and more if the actors actually are okay with it and see no harm.
Im done with this shit.
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Da That would really be the worst. Imagine if Danielle and Stefania actually are okay with this but they just know we hate it and that’s why they’re silent? That’s the fear with having two actresses who may not be lgbtq+ representing the community. I don’t think they realize how disrespectful or harmful it really is. Plus they love working with Grey clearly so I could see them being on board sadly.
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I mean.. i'm sure people have seen this already but at 52:30mins in.. Grey and Danielle are on board with it. That was like over 18months ago. Danielle did seem a bit hesitant to be fair.. but.. then went with it.
Have to bare in mind a lot has happened since then.. but the cheating itself must have happened pretty close to when they did it and thought it would be ok if they were 'homies'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBxgFeaVAL8
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After this who knows?
Either they took his idea or the actors really advocated for it.
But at the same time, danielle did tweet during the episode where carina says no no no to Jack idea that was the appropriate reaction.
At this point, I just want this to be over with and if he really is the donor for him to not have the father role
Re: Maya and Carina Station 19
Its not only that factor, find me on Straight couple in the world who would want to have the kid of the person their partner cheated with. Its unreal.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:48Da That would really be the worst. Imagine if Danielle and Stefania actually are okay with this but they just know we hate it and that’s why they’re silent? That’s the fear with having two actresses who may not be lgbtq+ representing the community. I don’t think they realize how disrespectful or harmful it really is. Plus they love working with Grey clearly so I could see them being on board sadly.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:22Jack is the donor and honestly im questioning more and more if the actors actually are okay with it and see no harm.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:16What do we think of Stefania RTing Zaiver's tweets?
I'm losing all hope of this ending in a semi-non-disgusting way.
Im done with this shit.
Re: Maya and Carina Station 19
After this who knows?guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 16:09I mean.. i'm sure people have seen this already but at 52:30mins in.. Grey and Danielle are on board with it. That was like over 18months ago. Danielle did seem a bit hesitant to be fair.. but.. then went with it.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:48Da That would really be the worst. Imagine if Danielle and Stefania actually are okay with this but they just know we hate it and that’s why they’re silent? That’s the fear with having two actresses who may not be lgbtq+ representing the community. I don’t think they realize how disrespectful or harmful it really is. Plus they love working with Grey clearly so I could see them being on board sadly.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:22Jack is the donor and honestly im questioning more and more if the actors actually are okay with it and see no harm.Guest wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 15:16What do we think of Stefania RTing Zaiver's tweets?
I'm losing all hope of this ending in a semi-non-disgusting way.
Im done with this shit.
Have to bare in mind a lot has happened since then.. but the cheating itself must have happened pretty close to when they did it and thought it would be ok if they were 'homies'
Either they took his idea or the actors really advocated for it.
But at the same time, danielle did tweet during the episode where carina says no no no to Jack idea that was the appropriate reaction.
At this point, I just want this to be over with and if he really is the donor for him to not have the father role
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