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If Station 19 goes for the bury your gays troupe, it wouldnt surprise me if larger scale media picks it up, and the overall community speaks out. Ive noticed that when shows do this, even if people dont watch or like the show within the LGBTQ community, they come out to bat because its such an egregious and established troupe. I dont think Station 19 would be the same.
I can’t see them killing either of them off, but after what happened with Killing Eve, I think this would be even bigger than that if they ever went that far.
I don't think any of them is getting killed, this show is not Grey's, and as much as they might hate Marina fans in the end they need their engagement and views and that's the truth.
The world we live in today is not the same as Grey's and S19 is no powerhouse show.
Station 19 is bringing the best ratings for any show right now.
Actually not true, both Grey´s and S19 are averaging the same ratings 0.63. S19 does have more viewers but what matters is the 18-49 demo.
Also, Grey´s is a beast in streaming numbers and delayed viewing after 3 days and 7 days, they almost double their ratings. S19 doesnt do bad in those but it is no Grey´s.
What I tried to say is that S19 does not have the comfort of just killing one of its characters for the sake of killing it, especially such an important character that brings views and engagement. The industry is not what it was, the ratings will continue to decline and streaming and social media engagement will be at the for front of tv shows sucess, the paradigm changed and they know that. So as I´ve said before, Maya only leaves if Danielle wants to leave.

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I haven't watched a full episode for some time now, but I would always watch every single Marina scene, except for last week and I don't think I will be able to, at least not this season. Can't even look at gifs, cause I know Jack is there in almost every scene. And don't get me started on the hug... Maybe I'm overreacting, but that's how I feel right now.
finally someone talks about the hug! that thing was the most UNCOMFORTABLE thing I’ve had to watch recently. who in their right mind would hug their partner’s ex and cheater? Also it gave me big “three parents family” vibes and it’s kinda disgusting
Although many of you may not believe it, there are people capable of forgiving and moving on and not hating that person forever. If she has been able to forgive Maya (who btw was the person who cheated on her, not Jack), why would she hold a grudge against Jack forever when he has proven to be no threat to her relationship? This kind of stuff happens in real life all the time, especially when you're over 16. I'm not saying it's okay for Jack to be the donor, but I do think it's okay that all 3 of them have gotten over the whole cheating thing.
Maybe I’m a bad lesbian lmao
Oh gosh Carina forgive Maya is because she love her, she in love with her. Did Carina love Jack? A big No right?
And yes of course is ok for them to forgone about the whole cheating thing, draw the line there, stop there. But alas noooo, the writers had to write Jack to be the donor, to become part of the family. And when you think about it, is not a Marina baby anymore, Maya actually got nothing to do with the baby biologically, is a Jackina baby :wtf:

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Can’t tell if the person who constantly defends Jack as the father, let’s stop pretending he will only be a “donor” is a self hating lesbian/bi or a writers lackey here to defend their boss. It’s literally happened before. Let me break down why this story arch is 1. Ridiculous 2. Harmful, yes harmful to lesbians and 3. Kills Carinas character. Since my points 1 and 2 go hand in hand I’ll start there Carina came blazing onto GA screens as a out and proud bisexual woman who didn’t take shit from anybody. She didn’t back down when Maya pulled her bullshit and called her out on it when she did. The writers had to twist her into a pretzel shell of her old self to have her be the one to suggest Jack. Moving on and “ forgiving” Jack for sleeping with her girlfriend knowing that she was in a relationship is one thing a sign of maturity sure but to have Carina be the one to suggest the man that was complicit in the act that ended her and Mayas relationship to be the father to their child is staggeringly stupid. As for how harmful this is for lesbian representation and by extension lesbians in general is it bolsters slack jawed heteronormative ideals that lesbian reared families are not possible without a male front and center, and what’s worse using Mayas ex. also suggests the harmful trope of lesbianism isn’t real they just haven’t met the right man yet. I’m jumping off my soap box as this is too long already but for fucks sake I can go on. I will say this, you are not some next level adult if you can watch this homophobic fairytale story unfold, you’re not a “true” fan of the couple, you are an enabler of this tired ass circle of disposable lesbian and less than couples that writers continue to turn with w/w couple.

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I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.

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I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
Danielle seems the most passionate about the show out of the whole cast. She promotes it the most. She loves the show. I also think she honestly likes the way their storyline is going. She clearly sees similarities to her own real life experience when the two aren’t the same at all. She loves Jack and is probably glad it’s him being involved.

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I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I think Stefania is happy with her job, she worked hard and struggled to get to where she is. But I think she genuinely doesn’t care about social media. She said it herself that she’s bad at it. I think she’s okay with simply doing her job and enjoying her life and doesn’t need that much SM interactions.

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I haven't watched a full episode for some time now, but I would always watch every single Marina scene, except for last week and I don't think I will be able to, at least not this season. Can't even look at gifs, cause I know Jack is there in almost every scene. And don't get me started on the hug... Maybe I'm overreacting, but that's how I feel right now.
finally someone talks about the hug! that thing was the most UNCOMFORTABLE thing I’ve had to watch recently. who in their right mind would hug their partner’s ex and cheater? Also it gave me big “three parents family” vibes and it’s kinda disgusting
yeah this whole trouple vibe makes me extremely uncomfortable

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I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
Danielle seems the most passionate about the show out of the whole cast. She promotes it the most. She loves the show. I also think she honestly likes the way their storyline is going. She clearly sees similarities to her own real life experience when the two aren’t the same at all. She loves Jack and is probably glad it’s him being involved.
Her situation is totally different. Up until that video she was sure asked to make, after so many people were reacting to what was coming, she wasn't liking or supporting that storyline, she avoided answering, all together. So nope. We will see what will happen. Things will escalate imo seeing Jack being involved in everything, as the narrative is going.

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I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I can't say I blame her for being there just for a check, she m kws it'll be almost impossible for her to find a job after this show unlike Danielle so I won't be surprised if she goes with anything they throw at her.

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12 Apr 2022, 12:53
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I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I think Stefania is happy with her job, she worked hard and struggled to get to where she is. But I think she genuinely doesn’t care about social media. She said it herself that she’s bad at it. I think she’s okay with simply doing her job and enjoying her life and doesn’t need that much SM interactions.
It also helps a lot to be from outside the US because it helps you see everything quite clearly. I'm sure she knows that 95% of everything that happens in Hollywood is ego and fakeness bs, so she doesn't even bother to be involved in internal or social media related dramas. If you ask me, she's a smart girl.

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I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I can't say I blame her for being there just for a check, she m kws it'll be almost impossible for her to find a job after this show unlike Danielle so I won't be surprised if she goes with anything they throw at her.
genuine question, why do you think it will be impossible for her to find a job after this show?

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I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I can't say I blame her for being there just for a check, she m kws it'll be almost impossible for her to find a job after this show unlike Danielle so I won't be surprised if she goes with anything they throw at her.
I'm sure they might find Jack being the donor a little weird, but not in a million years do they see it as dramatic as some of you do. And far from it is something that deserves that no one leave their job for it. Are you crazy or what?

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Danielle is the most excited of them all for season six.
She’s shadowing Kevin this week in hopes of directing an episode herself next season.
She’s not leaving unless someone makes her.

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12 Apr 2022, 12:59
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I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I can't say I blame her for being there just for a check, she m kws it'll be almost impossible for her to find a job after this show unlike Danielle so I won't be surprised if she goes with anything they throw at her.
Stefania unfortunately doesn't seem to want to use her popularity to get new jobs, i kinda feel she is too focused on promoting her bf. She is the most successful Italian actress right now, on two big US shows, she has so many followers on sm, yet she hardly does any promo of herself, her work, she almost exclusively has her boyfriend photographing her, and he isn't that good at that, some of his pics are pornographic and so amateurish, she could have gotten so many side jobs in her country for example, in films, guest shows. The moment she stops filming she flies in Brazil for her bf, or he comes in LA and following him around.

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12 Apr 2022, 13:06
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12 Apr 2022, 12:59
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12 Apr 2022, 12:15
I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I can't say I blame her for being there just for a check, she m kws it'll be almost impossible for her to find a job after this show unlike Danielle so I won't be surprised if she goes with anything they throw at her.
I'm sure they might find Jack being the donor a little weird, but not in a million years do they see it as dramatic as some of you do. And far from it is something that deserves that no one leave their job for it. Are you crazy or what?
Lol in what world the person you cheated with, you make them the donor of your child??? Little weird?? This would have never happened in a straight relationship not gay men relationship. Nope.

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12 Apr 2022, 13:04
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12 Apr 2022, 12:59
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12 Apr 2022, 12:15
I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I can't say I blame her for being there just for a check, she m kws it'll be almost impossible for her to find a job after this show unlike Danielle so I won't be surprised if she goes with anything they throw at her.
genuine question, why do you think it will be impossible for her to find a job after this show?
She's an Italian actress with an accent who isn't exactly young, we all know how this cruel industry works.

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12 Apr 2022, 12:14
Can’t tell if the person who constantly defends Jack as the father, let’s stop pretending he will only be a “donor” is a self hating lesbian/bi or a writers lackey here to defend their boss. It’s literally happened before. Let me break down why this story arch is 1. Ridiculous 2. Harmful, yes harmful to lesbians and 3. Kills Carinas character. Since my points 1 and 2 go hand in hand I’ll start there Carina came blazing onto GA screens as a out and proud bisexual woman who didn’t take shit from anybody. She didn’t back down when Maya pulled her bullshit and called her out on it when she did. The writers had to twist her into a pretzel shell of her old self to have her be the one to suggest Jack. Moving on and “ forgiving” Jack for sleeping with her girlfriend knowing that she was in a relationship is one thing a sign of maturity sure but to have Carina be the one to suggest the man that was complicit in the act that ended her and Mayas relationship to be the father to their child is staggeringly stupid. As for how harmful this is for lesbian representation and by extension lesbians in general is it bolsters slack jawed heteronormative ideals that lesbian reared families are not possible without a male front and center, and what’s worse using Mayas ex. also suggests the harmful trope of lesbianism isn’t real they just haven’t met the right man yet. I’m jumping off my soap box as this is too long already but for fucks sake I can go on. I will say this, you are not some next level adult if you can watch this homophobic fairytale story unfold, you’re not a “true” fan of the couple, you are an enabler of this tired ass circle of disposable lesbian and less than couples that writers continue to turn with w/w couple.
This. There are so many wrong things with this storyline, the harmful wording which invalidates single mothers and queer women raising kids, the fact that he's an ex/the person who Maya cheated with, the complete character assassination of Carina, the hyperfixation of a man in the storyline, the list goes on. No one's upset because they find it impossible for Carina to forgive him, it actually makes sense. Carina is a very forgiving and mature character. My issue is Carina being able to work with him civilly, be friends with him or simply just exist in the same space with him perfectly shows this. Making him the donor and saying ludicrous things like he'll be part of the family really wasn't necessary. My fear now is how Maya might be alienated in this whole process. An anon previously pointed out how in the scene where all 3 of them hugged, you couldn't even see Maya. That's some pretty obvious foreshadowing of what's to come.

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12 Apr 2022, 13:29
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12 Apr 2022, 13:04
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12 Apr 2022, 12:59
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12 Apr 2022, 12:15
I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I can't say I blame her for being there just for a check, she m kws it'll be almost impossible for her to find a job after this show unlike Danielle so I won't be surprised if she goes with anything they throw at her.
genuine question, why do you think it will be impossible for her to find a job after this show?
She's an Italian actress with an accent who isn't exactly young, we all know how this cruel industry works.
As an Italian myself, I feel like she would be so much better if she played in Italian

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12 Apr 2022, 13:29
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12 Apr 2022, 13:04
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12 Apr 2022, 12:59
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12 Apr 2022, 12:15
I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I can't say I blame her for being there just for a check, she m kws it'll be almost impossible for her to find a job after this show unlike Danielle so I won't be surprised if she goes with anything they throw at her.
genuine question, why do you think it will be impossible for her to find a job after this show?
She's an Italian actress with an accent who isn't exactly young, we all know how this cruel industry works.
I have no knowledge of this so maybe it's a dumb question but is she making enough money from the show that she wouldn't need to work or find a job very soon once her time on Grey's and S19 ends? (I'm assuming she's not making enough money to be able to retire completely right?)

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12 Apr 2022, 13:23
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12 Apr 2022, 12:59
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12 Apr 2022, 12:15
I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I can't say I blame her for being there just for a check, she m kws it'll be almost impossible for her to find a job after this show unlike Danielle so I won't be surprised if she goes with anything they throw at her.
Stefania unfortunately doesn't seem to want to use her popularity to get new jobs, i kinda feel she is too focused on promoting her bf. She is the most successful Italian actress right now, on two big US shows, she has so many followers on sm, yet she hardly does any promo of herself, her work, she almost exclusively has her boyfriend photographing her, and he isn't that good at that, some of his pics are pornographic and so amateurish, she could have gotten so many side jobs in her country for example, in films, guest shows. The moment she stops filming she flies in Brazil for her bf, or he comes in LA and following him around.
Unfortunately this is true. She seems more focused on furthering his career than her own. It may be tougher for her to find something than Danielle obviously but she’s still really talented. She’s one of the better actors on S19 so I think if she really wanted to she could find work elsewhere but it doesn’t seem like she’s putting that kind of effort in. Though she does seem to enjoy directing too so maybe she would get more into that after. I wonder if we’ll see Danielle and/or Stefania direct an episode in season 6.

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12 Apr 2022, 13:16
Danielle is the most excited of them all for season six.
She’s shadowing Kevin this week in hopes of directing an episode herself next season.
She’s not leaving unless someone makes her.
Lol imagine if she has to direct Jaina next season 🥴

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12 Apr 2022, 13:45
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12 Apr 2022, 13:23
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12 Apr 2022, 12:59
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12 Apr 2022, 12:15
I can totally see Danielle leaving the show. She has gotten hugely popular, i bet she has been offered other jobs where she can play a more central important role than holding back so Jaina won't be upset. I also feel i don't think neither she or Stefania support this Jack storyline, with the whole cheating involved. As for Stefania
yeah i definitely see Danielle leaving, if Maya doesn't get a better story imo, while stefania seems to not really care as long she works.
I can't say I blame her for being there just for a check, she m kws it'll be almost impossible for her to find a job after this show unlike Danielle so I won't be surprised if she goes with anything they throw at her.
Stefania unfortunately doesn't seem to want to use her popularity to get new jobs, i kinda feel she is too focused on promoting her bf. She is the most successful Italian actress right now, on two big US shows, she has so many followers on sm, yet she hardly does any promo of herself, her work, she almost exclusively has her boyfriend photographing her, and he isn't that good at that, some of his pics are pornographic and so amateurish, she could have gotten so many side jobs in her country for example, in films, guest shows. The moment she stops filming she flies in Brazil for her bf, or he comes in LA and following him around.
Unfortunately this is true. She seems more focused on furthering his career than her own. It may be tougher for her to find something than Danielle obviously but she’s still really talented. She’s one of the better actors on S19 so I think if she really wanted to she could find work elsewhere but it doesn’t seem like she’s putting that kind of effort in. Though she does seem to enjoy directing too so maybe she would get more into that after. I wonder if we’ll see Danielle and/or Stefania direct an episode in season 6.
She is hot, and very popular, she could find work in international productions and of course in Italy, and probs another tv show, but she doesn't look like she is interested, right now.

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I see posts on Instagram already calling them a family of 3 and they are happy about it too.

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12 Apr 2022, 15:07
I see posts on Instagram already calling them a family of 3 and they are happy about it too.
Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.

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I see posts on Instagram already calling them a family of 3 and they are happy about it too.
Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.
It's ok. There gonna watch Jack and Carina getting closer and closer. And the marina fandom bis in huge decline. As someone mentioned earlier people are walking towards other ships.

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12 Apr 2022, 15:30
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I see posts on Instagram already calling them a family of 3 and they are happy about it too.
Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.
Yep her timing was perfect especially since she interacted with people right after (or was it Maddie lol) either way everyone played right into it and just wanted to make Danielle happy. And now others are claiming they just aren’t voicing how mad they still are about the storyline because no one will listen and it’s just perceived as hate. I guess that’s true but it still seems like more people aren’t against it than there was in the beginning.

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12 Apr 2022, 15:33
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I see posts on Instagram already calling them a family of 3 and they are happy about it too.
Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.
It's ok. There gonna watch Jack and Carina getting closer and closer. And the marina fandom bis in huge decline. As someone mentioned earlier people are walking towards other ships.
yeah there is zero enthusiasm and more is going to be lost as the season continues people aren't able to express their opinions anymore, don't you think there isn't anger or biternes, they are joining other fandoms the views and likes on pics videos have dropped the same on tweets, it does feel the Marina fandom as it was is ending and those who remain are there just to see what is happening

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12 Apr 2022, 15:36
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12 Apr 2022, 15:30
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12 Apr 2022, 15:07
I see posts on Instagram already calling them a family of 3 and they are happy about it too.
Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.
Yep her timing was perfect especially since she interacted with people right after (or was it Maddie lol) either way everyone played right into it and just wanted to make Danielle happy. And now others are claiming they just aren’t voicing how mad they still are about the storyline because no one will listen and it’s just perceived as hate. I guess that’s true but it still seems like more people aren’t against it than there was in the beginning.
This is exactly what happened in the Motherland fandom. One of the het actresses was upset nobody liked her couple/character. So she bawled and boohoo’d to the actress who played one half of the lesbian couple, so she made a big post about it on Twitter. And then (most of) the fandom made a complete switch and never made a bad tweet about the show, accepted the het couple, even praised it it most times. The fandom was never the same after that.

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I see posts on Instagram already calling them a family of 3 and they are happy about it too.
Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.
Yep her timing was perfect especially since she interacted with people right after (or was it Maddie lol) either way everyone played right into it and just wanted to make Danielle happy. And now others are claiming they just aren’t voicing how mad they still are about the storyline because no one will listen and it’s just perceived as hate. I guess that’s true but it still seems like more people aren’t against it than there was in the beginning.
I don't think she is aware of it but she killed her own fandom, fans may not be reacting but they aren't vocal, many left , its a huge silent dissapointment and even towards her, big let down.

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12 Apr 2022, 15:48
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12 Apr 2022, 15:36
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12 Apr 2022, 15:30
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12 Apr 2022, 15:07
I see posts on Instagram already calling them a family of 3 and they are happy about it too.
Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.
Yep her timing was perfect especially since she interacted with people right after (or was it Maddie lol) either way everyone played right into it and just wanted to make Danielle happy. And now others are claiming they just aren’t voicing how mad they still are about the storyline because no one will listen and it’s just perceived as hate. I guess that’s true but it still seems like more people aren’t against it than there was in the beginning.
I don't think she is aware of it but she killed her own fandom, fans may not be reacting but they aren't vocal, many left , its a huge silent dissapointment and even towards her, big let down.
This, i see some desperation now trying to say it's ok we are moving ahead and we accept it but in reality who is going to make GIFs of Carina with Jacks baby? Who is going to be happy, excited about it? It kinda took the joy and happiness from the fandom, the Marina story. Nobody is excited or even happy. They just accept the situation.

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12 Apr 2022, 15:48
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12 Apr 2022, 15:36
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12 Apr 2022, 15:30
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12 Apr 2022, 15:07
I see posts on Instagram already calling them a family of 3 and they are happy about it too.
Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.
Yep her timing was perfect especially since she interacted with people right after (or was it Maddie lol) either way everyone played right into it and just wanted to make Danielle happy. And now others are claiming they just aren’t voicing how mad they still are about the storyline because no one will listen and it’s just perceived as hate. I guess that’s true but it still seems like more people aren’t against it than there was in the beginning.
I don't think she is aware of it but she killed her own fandom, fans may not be reacting but they aren't vocal, many left , its a huge silent dissapointment and even towards her, big let down.
Yeah and it doesn’t help that now this Jaina situation happened right after because I honestly don’t know if we’ll hear from Danielle again. If her tweets are being ripped apart from her co star and now has the fandom at each other’s throats and cry baby Denise probably whining about it she’s probably going to stay silent for at least the rest of this season and the hiatus.

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I think I’m the only one left who thinks they won’t have Jack be too involved. It would be ridiculous and they know no fans would want that.

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12 Apr 2022, 15:48
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12 Apr 2022, 15:36
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12 Apr 2022, 15:30
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12 Apr 2022, 15:07
I see posts on Instagram already calling them a family of 3 and they are happy about it too.
Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.
Yep her timing was perfect especially since she interacted with people right after (or was it Maddie lol) either way everyone played right into it and just wanted to make Danielle happy. And now others are claiming they just aren’t voicing how mad they still are about the storyline because no one will listen and it’s just perceived as hate. I guess that’s true but it still seems like more people aren’t against it than there was in the beginning.
I don't think she is aware of it but she killed her own fandom, fans may not be reacting but they aren't vocal, many left , its a huge silent dissapointment and even towards her, big let down.
Yeah and it doesn’t help that now this Jaina situation happened right after because I honestly don’t know if we’ll hear from Danielle again. If her tweets are being ripped apart from her co star and now has the fandom at each other’s throats and cry baby Denise probably whining about it she’s probably going to stay silent for at least the rest of this season and the hiatus.
I kinda don't care about Danielle right now. She not only went against her own fans but called them haters and such, when these fans defended her in a very much beautiful respectful way. Go check how many accounts dedicated to her are now following ER and Kamelia. Things change so quickly especially in gay fandoms because we are used to being so dissapointed. Fans move on to the next fandom, especially now when they are blocked and not even allowed to have a different opinion. The sm engagement that was such a huge factor for Danielle's/Maya's and Marinas popularity can dissapear so fast. Especially if she stops engaging. Watch this space.

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Well it’s only a matter of time before Kai/Amelia is ruined too lol it’s part of the same universe so it’s inevitable. I’m not even wasting my time getting invested in them. They don’t seem long term to me anyway so anyone going from Marina from them isn’t making the smartest decision considering the same producers are involved.

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Well it’s only a matter of time before Kai/Amelia is ruined too lol it’s part of the same universe so it’s inevitable. I’m not even wasting my time getting invested in them. They don’t seem long term to me anyway so anyone going from Marina from them isn’t making the smartest decision considering the same producers are involved.
But they are joyful playful beautiful and with no possibility of Amelia getting pregnant from a man yet. In ER fans have a queer artist they can follow they do lives everyday engage with fans and tgey are really queer

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Well it’s only a matter of time before Kai/Amelia is ruined too lol it’s part of the same universe so it’s inevitable. I’m not even wasting my time getting invested in them. They don’t seem long term to me anyway so anyone going from Marina from them isn’t making the smartest decision considering the same producers are involved.
It depends on their popularity. And Kamelia had such pretty hot scenes lately. Its still early days.

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12 Apr 2022, 16:07
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12 Apr 2022, 15:48
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12 Apr 2022, 15:36
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12 Apr 2022, 15:30
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12 Apr 2022, 15:07
I see posts on Instagram already calling them a family of 3 and they are happy about it too.
Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.
Yep her timing was perfect especially since she interacted with people right after (or was it Maddie lol) either way everyone played right into it and just wanted to make Danielle happy. And now others are claiming they just aren’t voicing how mad they still are about the storyline because no one will listen and it’s just perceived as hate. I guess that’s true but it still seems like more people aren’t against it than there was in the beginning.
I don't think she is aware of it but she killed her own fandom, fans may not be reacting but they aren't vocal, many left , its a huge silent dissapointment and even towards her, big let down.
Yeah and it doesn’t help that now this Jaina situation happened right after because I honestly don’t know if we’ll hear from Danielle again. If her tweets are being ripped apart from her co star and now has the fandom at each other’s throats and cry baby Denise probably whining about it she’s probably going to stay silent for at least the rest of this season and the hiatus.
I hope she does disappear until next season and not give Jaina anymore to work with and I think the whole fandom just needs a long break from this show even though we still have 3 episodes left. I also do think she was told to make that video because it's almost exactly what Zavier tweeted and both just smell of PR damage control. My guess is that Kiley or Krista "strongly suggested" she say something. Even though she said that it's not about expressing disagreement and that is welcome, that's not how it was perceived.

Krista and Kiley should have been the ones to tweet or make a video and not have their employees be the ones to address the situation. I'm probably being very, very naive and optimistic but until it's actually done, I don't think Jack will end up the donor. I'm expecting some major drama or twist because it's all been way too easy.

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Re: Maya and Carina - Station 19

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Guest wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 16:07
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12 Apr 2022, 15:48
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12 Apr 2022, 15:36
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Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.
Yep her timing was perfect especially since she interacted with people right after (or was it Maddie lol) either way everyone played right into it and just wanted to make Danielle happy. And now others are claiming they just aren’t voicing how mad they still are about the storyline because no one will listen and it’s just perceived as hate. I guess that’s true but it still seems like more people aren’t against it than there was in the beginning.
I don't think she is aware of it but she killed her own fandom, fans may not be reacting but they aren't vocal, many left , its a huge silent dissapointment and even towards her, big let down.
Yeah and it doesn’t help that now this Jaina situation happened right after because I honestly don’t know if we’ll hear from Danielle again. If her tweets are being ripped apart from her co star and now has the fandom at each other’s throats and cry baby Denise probably whining about it she’s probably going to stay silent for at least the rest of this season and the hiatus.
I hope she does disappear until next season and not give Jaina anymore to work with and I think the whole fandom just needs a long break from this show even though we still have 3 episodes left. I also do think she was told to make that video because it's almost exactly what Zavier tweeted and both just smell of PR damage control. My guess is that Kiley or Krista "strongly suggested" she say something. Even though she said that it's not about expressing disagreement and that is welcome, that's not how it was perceived.

Krista and Kiley should have been the ones to tweet or make a video and not have their employees be the ones to address the situation. I'm probably being very, very naive and optimistic but until it's actually done, I don't think Jack will end up the donor. I'm expecting some major drama or twist because it's all been way too easy.
I think the break is going to weaken the fandom even more, without interactions, without engagement, and if the tge next episodes are like the previous ones concerning the Jack situation. Many won't actually come back after a long break.

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12 Apr 2022, 16:18
I think I’m the only one left who thinks they won’t have Jack be too involved. It would be ridiculous and they know no fans would want that.
I mean I had the exact same thought when they first decided to go with a known sperm donor and look at how that turned out. At this point I've lost all faith in the writers and I'm actively preparing for the worst.

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Re: Maya and Carina - Station 19

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I think I’m the only one left who thinks they won’t have Jack be too involved. It would be ridiculous and they know no fans would want that.
I thought the same when the joke started about Jack being the donor? I mean go back and check the discussions back then everyone was joking about it, hahaha, 😂 nobody thought it could happen. Then as the plot progressed, fans started seeing what was coming and the reactions grew and grew and they were huge and everyone still was saying no way no fan wants it, and what happened?? Yup. Going by Danielles tweets he is going to be a major presence in Marina imo. Third parent.

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Re: Maya and Carina - Station 19

#8056

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Legends of tomorrow is a great show with a married ww couple and going to have their own child. Im definitely leaving marina for them.

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Re: Maya and Carina - Station 19

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Well it’s only a matter of time before Kai/Amelia is ruined too lol it’s part of the same universe so it’s inevitable. I’m not even wasting my time getting invested in them. They don’t seem long term to me anyway so anyone going from Marina from them isn’t making the smartest decision considering the same producers are involved.
It depends on their popularity. And Kamelia had such pretty hot scenes lately. Its still early days.
Lol Kai is so boring, I would literally watch fun uncle Jack every episode than jump ship to Amelia/Kai.

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Re: Maya and Carina - Station 19

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Guest wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:23
Guest wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 16:41
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12 Apr 2022, 16:26
Well it’s only a matter of time before Kai/Amelia is ruined too lol it’s part of the same universe so it’s inevitable. I’m not even wasting my time getting invested in them. They don’t seem long term to me anyway so anyone going from Marina from them isn’t making the smartest decision considering the same producers are involved.
It depends on their popularity. And Kamelia had such pretty hot scenes lately. Its still early days.
Lol Kai is so boring, I would literally watch fun uncle Jack every episode than jump ship to Amelia/Kai.
You should. You may end up being straight too 😂 enjoy him fuck Carina

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12 Apr 2022, 17:23
Guest wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 16:41
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12 Apr 2022, 16:26
Well it’s only a matter of time before Kai/Amelia is ruined too lol it’s part of the same universe so it’s inevitable. I’m not even wasting my time getting invested in them. They don’t seem long term to me anyway so anyone going from Marina from them isn’t making the smartest decision considering the same producers are involved.
It depends on their popularity. And Kamelia had such pretty hot scenes lately. Its still early days.
Lol Kai is so boring, I would literally watch fun uncle Jack every episode than jump ship to Amelia/Kai.
Really? Jack seems boring to me and very troubled? Kai is hot imo. Their voice, talk, strong, artistic. Jack has zero talent he is mediocre.

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Re: Maya and Carina - Station 19

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12 Apr 2022, 17:23
Guest wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 16:41
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12 Apr 2022, 16:26
Well it’s only a matter of time before Kai/Amelia is ruined too lol it’s part of the same universe so it’s inevitable. I’m not even wasting my time getting invested in them. They don’t seem long term to me anyway so anyone going from Marina from them isn’t making the smartest decision considering the same producers are involved.
It depends on their popularity. And Kamelia had such pretty hot scenes lately. Its still early days.
Lol Kai is so boring, I would literally watch fun uncle Jack every episode than jump ship to Amelia/Kai.
Kai is boring to me too. I don’t see the appeal and I’m not into the ship. And they ruined Link’s character just for the ship. Amelia and Link were great before it. But it definitely annoyed me how Kai & Amelia got all these sexy scenes so early on that we’ve get to get for Maya & Carina when they have way better chemistry too.

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Re: Maya and Carina - Station 19

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12 Apr 2022, 17:27
Guest wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:23
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12 Apr 2022, 16:41
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12 Apr 2022, 16:26
Well it’s only a matter of time before Kai/Amelia is ruined too lol it’s part of the same universe so it’s inevitable. I’m not even wasting my time getting invested in them. They don’t seem long term to me anyway so anyone going from Marina from them isn’t making the smartest decision considering the same producers are involved.
It depends on their popularity. And Kamelia had such pretty hot scenes lately. Its still early days.
Lol Kai is so boring, I would literally watch fun uncle Jack every episode than jump ship to Amelia/Kai.
You should. You may end up being straight too 😂 enjoy him fuck Carina
Nahh I just tend to like my women as women though, I know that’s hard for some people to understand though. Carina may be bffs with Jack, but she ain’t touching him with a 6 foot pole.

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Re: Maya and Carina - Station 19

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Guest wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:32
Guest wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:23
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12 Apr 2022, 16:41
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12 Apr 2022, 16:26
Well it’s only a matter of time before Kai/Amelia is ruined too lol it’s part of the same universe so it’s inevitable. I’m not even wasting my time getting invested in them. They don’t seem long term to me anyway so anyone going from Marina from them isn’t making the smartest decision considering the same producers are involved.
It depends on their popularity. And Kamelia had such pretty hot scenes lately. Its still early days.
Lol Kai is so boring, I would literally watch fun uncle Jack every episode than jump ship to Amelia/Kai.
Kai is boring to me too. I don’t see the appeal and I’m not into the ship. And they ruined Link’s character just for the ship. Amelia and Link were great before it. But it definitely annoyed me how Kai & Amelia got all these sexy scenes so early on that we’ve get to get for Maya & Carina when they have way better chemistry too.
YES! Exactly! I never thought I would be defending a man, of all things. But they did Link so dirty just for cool woke points for having an NB on their show. It made literally no sense. Don’t even get me started on their scenes compared to Maya and Carina, literally so unfair. But I do suppose the time slot allows for a little more risqué scenes. I just wish it was between two women, and with someone who has more presence than a tree would be nice. It would have been far more enjoyable.

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Re: Maya and Carina - Station 19

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Guest wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:32
Guest wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:23
Guest wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 16:41
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12 Apr 2022, 16:26
Well it’s only a matter of time before Kai/Amelia is ruined too lol it’s part of the same universe so it’s inevitable. I’m not even wasting my time getting invested in them. They don’t seem long term to me anyway so anyone going from Marina from them isn’t making the smartest decision considering the same producers are involved.
It depends on their popularity. And Kamelia had such pretty hot scenes lately. Its still early days.
Lol Kai is so boring, I would literally watch fun uncle Jack every episode than jump ship to Amelia/Kai.
Kai is boring to me too. I don’t see the appeal and I’m not into the ship. And they ruined Link’s character just for the ship. Amelia and Link were great before it. But it definitely annoyed me how Kai & Amelia got all these sexy scenes so early on that we’ve get to get for Maya & Carina when they have way better chemistry too.
I think the Marina chemistry kinda toned down after the Mariage kiss? The one where Danielle went for it and Stefania dragged herself away. After that Danielle looks totally reserved in the sex scenes, and kinda keeps Stefania at bay. Even in the sex episode you can tell Danielle is totally reserved. Kai and Amelia scenes wow those were such hot kisses and then the couch scenes.

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Guest wrote:
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12 Apr 2022, 15:48
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12 Apr 2022, 15:36
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Well Danielle certainly knew what she was doing. Whether she did it herself, or if she was told.
Yep her timing was perfect especially since she interacted with people right after (or was it Maddie lol) either way everyone played right into it and just wanted to make Danielle happy. And now others are claiming they just aren’t voicing how mad they still are about the storyline because no one will listen and it’s just perceived as hate. I guess that’s true but it still seems like more people aren’t against it than there was in the beginning.
I don't think she is aware of it but she killed her own fandom, fans may not be reacting but they aren't vocal, many left , its a huge silent dissapointment and even towards her, big let down.
Yeah and it doesn’t help that now this Jaina situation happened right after because I honestly don’t know if we’ll hear from Danielle again. If her tweets are being ripped apart from her co star and now has the fandom at each other’s throats and cry baby Denise probably whining about it she’s probably going to stay silent for at least the rest of this season and the hiatus.
I hope she does disappear until next season and not give Jaina anymore to work with and I think the whole fandom just needs a long break from this show even though we still have 3 episodes left. I also do think she was told to make that video because it's almost exactly what Zavier tweeted and both just smell of PR damage control. My guess is that Kiley or Krista "strongly suggested" she say something. Even though she said that it's not about expressing disagreement and that is welcome, that's not how it was perceived.

Krista and Kiley should have been the ones to tweet or make a video and not have their employees be the ones to address the situation. I'm probably being very, very naive and optimistic but until it's actually done, I don't think Jack will end up the donor. I'm expecting some major drama or twist because it's all been way too easy.
I agree with all of this and this is how I feel too. I think we’ve just been let down continuously all season long that we expect Jack to be a third parent and all this other stuff but we still don’t even know if there will be an actual baby lol. So much can still happen. Jack may not be able to donate, Carina may not be able to get pregnant, she can have a miscarriage. It’s been pretty smooth sailing so far so I feel like something is going to happen at some point.

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After all this, for me maya is a woman with no self respect. I still don’t get how and why danielle encourages this. In character maybe it’s from the guilt of cheating, irl i don’t know…her story doesn’t seam similar at all

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