The World to Come (starring Vanessa Kirby and Katherine Waterston)
The World to Come (starring Vanessa Kirby and Katherine Waterston)
Somewhere along the mid-19th century American East Coast frontier, two neighboring couples battle hardship and isolation, witnessed by a splendid yet testing landscape, challenging them both physically and psychologically.
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Portrait of a Farmer on Fire
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Without the fossils.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 15:18Portrait of a Farmer on Fire
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Made me lolGuest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 15:18Portrait of a Farmer on Fire
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I love period pieces but come on, it’s like every lesbian film is also a period film.
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So they are both het partnered? Why can't we have lesbians movies without men involved?
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Since seeing that clip of them awkwardly kissing I'm like no thanks.
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Geez. I never thought they could ever make Vanessa Kirby look as awful as she does in that clip. She is so freaking gorgeous in other projects. Notably in the Crown, another period piece.
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http://library.lol/fiction/CBA1485C4E8D ... FA9AB164EA
link to dl the short story. click on GET to dl in epub.
so ppl get an idea of what to expect. its bleak, depressing as hell but well written and some ppl like that sort of thing. ending left me unsatisfied and angry for abbie but ymmv.
link to dl the short story. click on GET to dl in epub.
so ppl get an idea of what to expect. its bleak, depressing as hell but well written and some ppl like that sort of thing. ending left me unsatisfied and angry for abbie but ymmv.
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That wig is doing her no favorsGuest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 15:45Geez. I never thought they could ever make Vanessa Kirby look as awful as she does in that clip. She is so freaking gorgeous in other projects. Notably in the Crown, another period piece.
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Vanessa Kirby, yes please.
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They always like to show gay people as miserable.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 15:46http://library.lol/fiction/CBA1485C4E8D ... FA9AB164EA
link to dl the short story. click on GET to dl in epub.
so ppl get an idea of what to expect. its bleak, depressing as hell but well written and some ppl like that sort of thing. ending left me unsatisfied and angry for abbie but ymmv.
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She's fantastic in the Crown, it was disappointing when Helena Bonham-Carter toke over as Princess Margaret.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 15:45Geez. I never thought they could ever make Vanessa Kirby look as awful as she does in that clip. She is so freaking gorgeous in other projects. Notably in the Crown, another period piece.
Is it weird editing or in the one clip with them walking does the one with the brown hair appear not to open her mouth while speaking?
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Da. Yeah, I wasn’t in love w HBC as her replacement. Olivia Colman, neither, and I usually love her.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 16:38She's fantastic in the Crown, it was disappointing when Helena Bonham-Carter toke over as Princess Margaret.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 15:45Geez. I never thought they could ever make Vanessa Kirby look as awful as she does in that clip. She is so freaking gorgeous in other projects. Notably in the Crown, another period piece.
Is it weird editing or in the one clip with them walking does the one with the brown hair appear not to open her mouth while speaking?
Re the clip: It almost sounds like the audio is running 1.5x normal speed. Plus the ambient sound is too loud.
I’ll just keep my eyes focused on Vanessa.
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Looking forward to the sci-fi/speculative fiction flick of a world without men. I'd also settle for a country or city setting without men.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 15:34So they are both het partnered? Why can't we have lesbians movies without men involved?
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can we please get a lesbian film not set during a time when my granny, great granny or great great granny were toddlers? might be an okay film though.
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The prom and that movie with Kristen Stewart are coming out in a a couple of monthsniet nada wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 17:36can we please get a lesbian film not set during a time when my granny, great granny or great great granny were toddlers? might be an okay film though.
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ahh. sounds like something I will hate nearly as much as a quiet passion. but not quite. it's impossible for me to hate something as much as that.
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can you post, please?Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 15:42Since seeing that clip of them awkwardly kissing I'm like no thanks.
I didn’t see any chemistry in the trailer, so not too surprising to hear.
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2 thumbs up, then?Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 17:45
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Tired and I mean tired of all these damn period piece dyke movies. And honestly give me some color
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By color do you mean greater racial diversity?Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 18:01Tired and I mean tired of all these damn period piece dyke movies. And honestly give me some color
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These period dramas sure look like part of an agenda. The story never ends well for lesbians, thereby giving a gloomy picture of our lives. Invariably these movies are hopeless and depressing. It’s like discouraging lesbianism is the end game.
Perhaps I’m overreaching, but Hollywood always has a hidden agenda. I don’t trust the entertainment industry one bit.
Perhaps I’m overreaching, but Hollywood always has a hidden agenda. I don’t trust the entertainment industry one bit.
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as white person, I can confirm that this somehow even feels whiter than normal. lolGuest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 18:01Tired and I mean tired of all these damn period piece dyke movies. And honestly give me some color
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Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 19:29These period dramas sure look like part of an agenda. The story never ends well for lesbians, thereby giving a gloomy picture of our lives. Invariably these movies are hopeless and depressing. It’s like discouraging lesbianism is the end game.
Perhaps I’m overreaching, but Hollywood always has a hidden agenda. I don’t trust the entertainment industry one bit.
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well a lot of these movies aren't actually hollywood.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 19:29These period dramas sure look like part of an agenda. The story never ends well for lesbians, thereby giving a gloomy picture of our lives. Invariably these movies are hopeless and depressing. It’s like discouraging lesbianism is the end game.
Perhaps I’m overreaching, but Hollywood always has a hidden agenda. I don’t trust the entertainment industry one bit.
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Movies like The Handmaiden are exactly what the OP is calling for more of. 99% of lesbian films are white and of late the majority are period pieces where the relationships are doomed to fail to boot.
I'd also like to add that 9.8/10, if there is a POC, they are with a white woman. It's like the POC's gayness can only be legitimized or be seen as sexy/hot if a white woman is involved. I would love to see more Asian women together. More Middle Eastern women and for my own personal reasons, more black women in relationships with one another because we are out here too.
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Hollywood historically only greenlights films about minorities that A. will win them an oscar B. will paint them in a good light with a certain demographic and/or C. assuage their guilt about past transgressions; however, if the project fails to do any of those things they can throw up their hands and say, look we did this for you and yes we know it was shitty and not representative of you at all but we did it and you couldn't even come out and support it so you know what, we won't greenlight another one of these films until it will win me an Oscar nom or I need another pat on the back for doing something nice. And because gay writers want to work, they write trash films based on A, B and/or C because they know they will get greenlit.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 19:59I know, that’s why I said I don’t trust the entertainment industry. We must be the only audience they don’t aim to please. And what’s worse is that many of these movies are made by lesbians, like that aberration ‘The Kids Are All Right’.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 19:51well a lot of these movies aren't actually hollywood.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 19:29These period dramas sure look like part of an agenda. The story never ends well for lesbians, thereby giving a gloomy picture of our lives. Invariably these movies are hopeless and depressing. It’s like discouraging lesbianism is the end game.
Perhaps I’m overreaching, but Hollywood always has a hidden agenda. I don’t trust the entertainment industry one bit.
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One critic, Jessica Kiang, called "Portrait of a Lady on Low Heat". Made my day.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 15:18Portrait of a Farmer on Fire
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Ironically enough, this a good sign. Alex Billington is trash.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 17:45
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Sury then she would be simmering... simmering tension would be good. But I guess she didn't intend for a positive reading of that comment.
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Apparently
this is even more depressing than your usual sad lesbian film
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maybe "portrait of a lady lukewarm" would be better. hahaGuest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 20:50Sury then she would be simmering... simmering tension would be good. But I guess she didn't intend for a positive reading of that comment.
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FFS!Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 20:54Apparentlythis is even more depressing than your usual sad lesbian film
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"Discouraging lesbianism". We are inundated with heterosexuality all over the place, from womb to tomb. Yet here we are. Still gay as hell. If they want to get rid of the gays, they're going to have to go reich-wing.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 19:29These period dramas sure look like part of an agenda. The story never ends well for lesbians, thereby giving a gloomy picture of our lives. Invariably these movies are hopeless and depressing. It’s like discouraging lesbianism is the end game.
Perhaps I’m overreaching, but Hollywood always has a hidden agenda. I don’t trust the entertainment industry one bit.
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Probably true and I'm tired of period pieces, but I also don't care about men's opinions of lesbian moviesGuest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 17:45
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Honestly it sort of bugs me that so many lesbian movies (as in mainstream, acclaimed, artsy ones) lately are period pieces. It makes it seem like lesbianism is a thing of the past, and usually these movies are depressing and give lesbians very bleak endings. I'm not even someone who hates downer endings or wants all movies to have happy endings, but it gets old when the so many of the new movies coming out take place hundreds of years ago and the characters are mostly miserable. Yeah, you can point to some present-day lesbian movies too, but it seems like so many of the big ones lately that end up getting visibility and acclaim are period pieces. I want to see lesbians in the present, but I guess that would be imperfect too since it'd probably be all queerified.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 19:29These period dramas sure look like part of an agenda. The story never ends well for lesbians, thereby giving a gloomy picture of our lives. Invariably these movies are hopeless and depressing. It’s like discouraging lesbianism is the end game.
Perhaps I’m overreaching, but Hollywood always has a hidden agenda. I don’t trust the entertainment industry one bit.
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OK, but I can’t help but think that these depressing movies are not made to appeal to the lesbian audience, but to a more numerous audience, the so called liberal audience, who think these movies are brave just for involving sexual minorities. However, these straight audiences are tolerant to a point, and they always feel more comfortable when the minority ends up frustrated, because deep down they think theirs is the right lifestyle.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 22:27"Discouraging lesbianism". We are inundated with heterosexuality all over the place, from womb to tomb. Yet here we are. Still gay as hell. If they want to get rid of the gays, they're going to have to go reich-wing.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 19:29These period dramas sure look like part of an agenda. The story never ends well for lesbians, thereby giving a gloomy picture of our lives. Invariably these movies are hopeless and depressing. It’s like discouraging lesbianism is the end game.
Perhaps I’m overreaching, but Hollywood always has a hidden agenda. I don’t trust the entertainment industry one bit.
The people who are in these movies always end up getting a pat in the back, and that’s our ‘representation’ for you.
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I think the bleak ending is the intended effect, so the period piece is just the perfect instrument to that end. However, there’s also the imitation effect. As Hollywood is getting lazier, once a movie like ‘Portrait of a Lady on Fire’ gets good reviews, more of the kind (but inferior) will follow, and that’s all we get.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 22:57Honestly it sort of bugs me that so many lesbian movies (as in mainstream, acclaimed, artsy ones) lately are period pieces. It makes it seem like lesbianism is a thing of the past, and usually these movies are depressing and give lesbians very bleak endings. I'm not even someone who hates downer endings or wants all movies to have happy endings, but it gets old when the so many of the new movies coming out take place hundreds of years ago and the characters are mostly miserable. Yeah, you can point to some present-day lesbian movies too, but it seems like so many of the big ones lately that end up getting visibility and acclaim are period pieces. I want to see lesbians in the present, but I guess that would be imperfect too since it'd probably be all queerified.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 19:29These period dramas sure look like part of an agenda. The story never ends well for lesbians, thereby giving a gloomy picture of our lives. Invariably these movies are hopeless and depressing. It’s like discouraging lesbianism is the end game.
Perhaps I’m overreaching, but Hollywood always has a hidden agenda. I don’t trust the entertainment industry one bit.
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Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 23:01OK, but I can’t help but think that these depressing movies are not made to appeal to the lesbian audience, but to a more numerous audience, the so called liberal audience, who think these movies are brave just for involving sexual minorities. However, these straight audiences are tolerant to a point, and they always feel more comfortable when the minority ends up frustrated, because deep down they think theirs is the right lifestyle.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 22:27"Discouraging lesbianism". We are inundated with heterosexuality all over the place, from womb to tomb. Yet here we are. Still gay as hell. If they want to get rid of the gays, they're going to have to go reich-wing.Guest wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 19:29These period dramas sure look like part of an agenda. The story never ends well for lesbians, thereby giving a gloomy picture of our lives. Invariably these movies are hopeless and depressing. It’s like discouraging lesbianism is the end game.
Perhaps I’m overreaching, but Hollywood always has a hidden agenda. I don’t trust the entertainment industry one bit.
The people who are in these movies always end up getting a pat in the back, and that’s our ‘representation’ for you.
DA This reminds me of a negative review of Gentleman Jack, can't remember where it was from but it was a mainstream publication, with the (straight, I'm pretty sure) critic complaining that Anne Lister wasn't miserable and angsty enough about being a lesbian in the first couple episodes she saw.and they always feel more comfortable when the minority ends up frustrated, because deep down they think theirs is the right lifestyle.
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x100!
when you look at imbd its interesting how many men are judging lesbian or women centered films
and often when the movie is centered around women men seemed to be bothered by that and
don´t like it they are rating the films badly compared to women
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You really don't need to fuss over this guy's opinions. He's notorious for his shitty, bad takes on films and being edgy.vfjmuöl wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 23:28x100!
when you look at imbd its interesting how many men are judging lesbian or women centered films
and often when the movie is centered around women men seemed to be bothered by that and
don´t like it they are rating the films badly compared to women
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It's more like you guys love to complain whenever a lesbian period film is produced.I love period pieces but come on, it’s like every lesbian film is also a period film.
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