Transsexuals
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How does that work with him also supporting gender self-id? The trans-captured Independent of course writes about this in terms of "exclusion".Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 13:26
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Whenever I talk to a TRA it really feels like talking to a super religious person.
You say "I don't have the same beliefs as you" and they either scream about how you're a terrible person (AKA you're going to hell) or they use it as a chance to proselytize and proceed to talk absolute bollocks.
They'll be like, "oh I guess you just don't understand but I can explain it for you in a super easy way!" and it's just nonsense lmao.
There's no difference to me between a Mormon enthusiastically telling me all about how Joseph Smith translated those plates and a TRA explaining how "transwomen are women and always have been and sex actually doesn't exist" etc. None of it is rooted in observable reality. It's a belief system.
You say "I don't have the same beliefs as you" and they either scream about how you're a terrible person (AKA you're going to hell) or they use it as a chance to proselytize and proceed to talk absolute bollocks.
They'll be like, "oh I guess you just don't understand but I can explain it for you in a super easy way!" and it's just nonsense lmao.
There's no difference to me between a Mormon enthusiastically telling me all about how Joseph Smith translated those plates and a TRA explaining how "transwomen are women and always have been and sex actually doesn't exist" etc. None of it is rooted in observable reality. It's a belief system.
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You're lucky you even get an explanation, even if it's nonsenseGuest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 18:30Whenever I talk to a TRA it really feels like talking to a super religious person.
You say "I don't have the same beliefs as you" and they either scream about how you're a terrible person (AKA you're going to hell) or they use it as a chance to proselytize and proceed to talk absolute bollocks.
They'll be like, "oh I guess you just don't understand but I can explain it for you in a super easy way!" and it's just nonsense lmao.
There's no difference to me between a Mormon enthusiastically telling me all about how Joseph Smith translated those plates and a TRA explaining how "transwomen are women and always have been and sex actually doesn't exist" etc. None of it is rooted in observable reality. It's a belief system.
Most of my interactions with TRAs ended with them screeching and running away from the discussion.
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A big sinister difference: the former is a laughing stock (stupid provincial unattractive ppl with no real influence) among the mainstream (desirable; packaged as the right way/side/thinking) or the educated, better-off (middle class and up), city people, those in better companies/orgs - all of those who influence, shape and change culture and mindset - and these are very TRA now.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 18:30Whenever I talk to a TRA it really feels like talking to a super religious person.
You say "I don't have the same beliefs as you" and they either scream about how you're a terrible person (AKA you're going to hell) or they use it as a chance to proselytize and proceed to talk absolute bollocks.
They'll be like, "oh I guess you just don't understand but I can explain it for you in a super easy way!" and it's just nonsense lmao.
There's no difference to me between a Mormon enthusiastically telling me all about how Joseph Smith translated those plates and a TRA explaining how "transwomen are women and always have been and sex actually doesn't exist" etc. None of it is rooted in observable reality. It's a belief system.
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DA Getting OT, but actually the Mormon church is extremely wealthy and has quite outsized influence relative to their actual numbers even if they are also made fun of. Mormons are highly overrepresented among elected officials in the US, for instance. And it's not like Mormons are the only proselytizing religion. If you don't think the Evangelical block has any influence, well lol.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 19:00A big sinister difference: the former is a laughing stock (stupid provincial unattractive ppl with no real influence) among the mainstream (desirable; packaged as the right way/side/thinking) or the educated, better-off (middle class and up), city people, those in better companies/orgs - all of those who influence, shape and change culture and mindset - and these are very TRA now.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 18:30Whenever I talk to a TRA it really feels like talking to a super religious person.
You say "I don't have the same beliefs as you" and they either scream about how you're a terrible person (AKA you're going to hell) or they use it as a chance to proselytize and proceed to talk absolute bollocks.
They'll be like, "oh I guess you just don't understand but I can explain it for you in a super easy way!" and it's just nonsense lmao.
There's no difference to me between a Mormon enthusiastically telling me all about how Joseph Smith translated those plates and a TRA explaining how "transwomen are women and always have been and sex actually doesn't exist" etc. None of it is rooted in observable reality. It's a belief system.
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this is incredibly graphic, but important. Alix is brilliant. Didn't know Buck Angel is a pornographer.
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So this is what so many western countries are changing laws and language for? To accommodate these creeps? Someone needs to make a collection of all these confessions and send them to all the leaders in those countries for forced reading.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 21:17
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Something bothers me in "MtF" they can't be female even after an all the chirurgy on earth. Why not say TiM instead? To me it's a better description.
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Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 21:47Something bothers me in "MtF" they can't be female even after an all the chirurgy on earth. Why not say TiM instead? To me it's a better description.
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She's a disrespectful pos.
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I CANT believe it. It's like to spit on her grave.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 22:45
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I would love to sit down with Chase Strangio and have a discussion with her to see what's going through her mind. I'm not sure if she's sane.
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Some say we are paranoid when it comes to "the erasure of women". I'm not into "oh that's Orwellian" every second, but I mean ... Fuck this is it!
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It really really is. On the one hand I know not to be surprised at anything they do at this point, but this is just an absolute disgrace.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 23:38Some say we are paranoid when it comes to "the erasure of women". I'm not into "oh that's Orwellian" every second, but I mean ... Fuck this is it!
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Chase Strangio might unintentional peak more people with this nonsense.
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My sister-in-law is currently distraught over this. I know for a fact she's never met a single transwoman before so she's imagines they're all little dainty, poised creatures who simply want to blend into society and settle down with a nice man. Her husband, my brother, is less supportive because he's encountered the reality through his line of work.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 20:21
I really hate how this is being reported everywhere as some discrimination against the poor Twans What Just Want To Pee. No regard for the safety of actual women and girls at all.
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This is probably gossipy and silly, but I read that Ellen Page is apparently on Raya (exclusive/celeb dating app)... Anyone know if he's looking for women, men, and/or both? I wouldn't even think to ask had I not seen people gushing about her wearing some green flower on her suit to the Met Gala, which is apparently an Oscar Wilde reference, and I'm just wondering if she's going all TIF gay "man" now
https://pagesix.com/2021/09/20/elliot-p ... d-on-raya/
https://pagesix.com/2021/09/20/elliot-p ... d-on-raya/
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^ I'm sorry but Americans fucking deserve abortion ban or whatever conservatives are pushing for. Those people are less deranged than these Left nutjobs that lots of mainstream Dems/liberals/progressives have mindlessly supported with full vengeance ("TWAW! No debate! Fuck off anti-LGBTQ+ bigots!"). Those people have made these monsters grow. Without enablers, this cannot happen in this scale.
Even if some have never directly supported these specific quotes or incidents (too many to ignore though), they have always mindlessly supported loon things like ACLU and countless others, or rather, there have never really been the mass vocal and incessant protests anywhere from the mainstream Dem side against unhinged, sinister things that Dems are pushing for and/or supporting like this ACLU and all the equality/LGBTQ+ crap orgs, media, policies and politicians.
Even as foreign people not interested in American politics or news, we (like my parents) have gotten many news of multiple women's protests (because those were big and numerous) since Trump got elected, some mixture of Metoo and Trump.
Those people who keep saying nothing but "we have no alternatives but keep voting for Dems/Biden even if we only disagree with Equality Acts because the rest are only right/good": Sure. Then, right after he got elected, where have been the wide and loud protests to stop (twick, alter, destroy and make anew whatever) that monster Equality Acts? Oh right nothing as usual other than super minor voices vilified by those 'mainstream Dems'.
So these things have become norms... leading to constant incidents like Wi Spa, AOC/Cori, ACLU, etc. A few slowly peaking and continual fights don't change much fast enough when the loons and their supporters among the Left mainstream have already gotten very big and strong and unshaking.
Even if some have never directly supported these specific quotes or incidents (too many to ignore though), they have always mindlessly supported loon things like ACLU and countless others, or rather, there have never really been the mass vocal and incessant protests anywhere from the mainstream Dem side against unhinged, sinister things that Dems are pushing for and/or supporting like this ACLU and all the equality/LGBTQ+ crap orgs, media, policies and politicians.
Even as foreign people not interested in American politics or news, we (like my parents) have gotten many news of multiple women's protests (because those were big and numerous) since Trump got elected, some mixture of Metoo and Trump.
Those people who keep saying nothing but "we have no alternatives but keep voting for Dems/Biden even if we only disagree with Equality Acts because the rest are only right/good": Sure. Then, right after he got elected, where have been the wide and loud protests to stop (twick, alter, destroy and make anew whatever) that monster Equality Acts? Oh right nothing as usual other than super minor voices vilified by those 'mainstream Dems'.
So these things have become norms... leading to constant incidents like Wi Spa, AOC/Cori, ACLU, etc. A few slowly peaking and continual fights don't change much fast enough when the loons and their supporters among the Left mainstream have already gotten very big and strong and unshaking.
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Men trying to control women's bodies is "less deranged"?
People obsessed with black and white thinking are just as deranged as TRAs. And no, I'm not American.
People obsessed with black and white thinking are just as deranged as TRAs. And no, I'm not American.
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x2Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:01Men trying to control women's bodies is "less deranged"?
People obsessed with black and white thinking are just as deranged as TRAs. And no, I'm not American.
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x2Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:01Men trying to control women's bodies is "less deranged"?
People obsessed with black and white thinking are just as deranged as TRAs. And no, I'm not American.
ideological extremism of any political stripe is problematic. so tired of the deranged political commentator in here.
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X3 To a woman who might end up trapped in a worst case forced birth scenario this is not some "better option." TRA allies and right wingnuts will BOTH hurt vulnerable women, and that doesn't just suddenly become okay because one side isn't pro-trans.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:11x2Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:01Men trying to control women's bodies is "less deranged"?
People obsessed with black and white thinking are just as deranged as TRAs. And no, I'm not American.
ideological extremism of any political stripe is problematic. so tired of the deranged political commentator in here.
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x4 is that person lecturing rightwing forums on supporting women and gay rights? I'm guessing noGuest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:32X3 To a woman who might end up trapped in a worst case forced birth scenario this is not some "better option." TRA allies and right wingnuts will BOTH hurt vulnerable women, and that doesn't just suddenly become okay because one side isn't pro-trans.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:11x2Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:01Men trying to control women's bodies is "less deranged"?
People obsessed with black and white thinking are just as deranged as TRAs. And no, I'm not American.
ideological extremism of any political stripe is problematic. so tired of the deranged political commentator in here.
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Let me know when religion runs the media, government, education, medicine, law, every goddamn thing else.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 20:15DA Getting OT, but actually the Mormon church is extremely wealthy and has quite outsized influence relative to their actual numbers even if they are also made fun of. Mormons are highly overrepresented among elected officials in the US, for instance. And it's not like Mormons are the only proselytizing religion. If you don't think the Evangelical block has any influence, well lol.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 19:00A big sinister difference: the former is a laughing stock (stupid provincial unattractive ppl with no real influence) among the mainstream (desirable; packaged as the right way/side/thinking) or the educated, better-off (middle class and up), city people, those in better companies/orgs - all of those who influence, shape and change culture and mindset - and these are very TRA now.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 18:30Whenever I talk to a TRA it really feels like talking to a super religious person.
You say "I don't have the same beliefs as you" and they either scream about how you're a terrible person (AKA you're going to hell) or they use it as a chance to proselytize and proceed to talk absolute bollocks.
They'll be like, "oh I guess you just don't understand but I can explain it for you in a super easy way!" and it's just nonsense lmao.
There's no difference to me between a Mormon enthusiastically telling me all about how Joseph Smith translated those plates and a TRA explaining how "transwomen are women and always have been and sex actually doesn't exist" etc. None of it is rooted in observable reality. It's a belief system.
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Do you not realize that, speaking specifically about evangelicals, they do have their own entire alternate media ecosystem? Outsiders may laugh at it because it tends to be cheesy af, but it's profitable and self-sustaining. They're like a quarter of the country after all, and in a nation of over 300 million that goes a long way. And also, they do run a lot of the government in many places. Hence the Texas abortion ban, and having enough religiously motivated anti-choice justices placed on the Supreme Court to uphold it.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 04:03Let me know when religion runs the media, government, education, medicine, law, every goddamn thing else.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 20:15DA Getting OT, but actually the Mormon church is extremely wealthy and has quite outsized influence relative to their actual numbers even if they are also made fun of. Mormons are highly overrepresented among elected officials in the US, for instance. And it's not like Mormons are the only proselytizing religion. If you don't think the Evangelical block has any influence, well lol.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 19:00A big sinister difference: the former is a laughing stock (stupid provincial unattractive ppl with no real influence) among the mainstream (desirable; packaged as the right way/side/thinking) or the educated, better-off (middle class and up), city people, those in better companies/orgs - all of those who influence, shape and change culture and mindset - and these are very TRA now.Guest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2021, 18:30Whenever I talk to a TRA it really feels like talking to a super religious person.
You say "I don't have the same beliefs as you" and they either scream about how you're a terrible person (AKA you're going to hell) or they use it as a chance to proselytize and proceed to talk absolute bollocks.
They'll be like, "oh I guess you just don't understand but I can explain it for you in a super easy way!" and it's just nonsense lmao.
There's no difference to me between a Mormon enthusiastically telling me all about how Joseph Smith translated those plates and a TRA explaining how "transwomen are women and always have been and sex actually doesn't exist" etc. None of it is rooted in observable reality. It's a belief system.
None of this is to say that the TRA movement isn't also operating to do everything this thread has been talking about, but "actually extremist religion has no real meaningful influences or social consequences to be concerned about" is still just not a good take at all.
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for me, I always bring up trannies online to get them to hate them more. I at least got them to gang up on a woke teenage tranny.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:45x4 is that person lecturing rightwing forums on supporting women and gay rights? I'm guessing noGuest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:32X3 To a woman who might end up trapped in a worst case forced birth scenario this is not some "better option." TRA allies and right wingnuts will BOTH hurt vulnerable women, and that doesn't just suddenly become okay because one side isn't pro-trans.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:11x2Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:01Men trying to control women's bodies is "less deranged"?
People obsessed with black and white thinking are just as deranged as TRAs. And no, I'm not American.
ideological extremism of any political stripe is problematic. so tired of the deranged political commentator in here.
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DA Uh, was that teenager an actual predator, active enabler, or direct bully, or were they mostly just a dumb kid? Because I'm not interested in coddling others' delusions, but if you're just siccing organized vicious male troll brigades onto some teenager because they're into trans shit, that's not great.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 04:27for me, I always bring up trannies online to get them to hate them more. I at least got them to gang up on a woke teenage tranny.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:45x4 is that person lecturing rightwing forums on supporting women and gay rights? I'm guessing noGuest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:32X3 To a woman who might end up trapped in a worst case forced birth scenario this is not some "better option." TRA allies and right wingnuts will BOTH hurt vulnerable women, and that doesn't just suddenly become okay because one side isn't pro-trans.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:11x2Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:01Men trying to control women's bodies is "less deranged"?
People obsessed with black and white thinking are just as deranged as TRAs. And no, I'm not American.
ideological extremism of any political stripe is problematic. so tired of the deranged political commentator in here.
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Why?
The old bag supported dudes in women spaces.
Thanks to her dudes with wings now are allowed to women sports and single spaces. Thanks to her girls in schools restroom lost privacy and are losing shoolarships.
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They were arguing over politics on social media and the teenager was a she/they tranny. I merely pointed out that it was a tranny, and men and women both attacked him and told him to go focus on deciding which bathroom to use.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 04:44DA Uh, was that teenager an actual predator, active enabler, or direct bully, or were they mostly just a dumb kid? Because I'm not interested in coddling others' delusions, but if you're just siccing organized vicious male troll brigades onto some teenager because they're into trans shit, that's not great.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 04:27for me, I always bring up trannies online to get them to hate them more. I at least got them to gang up on a woke teenage tranny.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:45x4 is that person lecturing rightwing forums on supporting women and gay rights? I'm guessing noGuest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:32X3 To a woman who might end up trapped in a worst case forced birth scenario this is not some "better option." TRA allies and right wingnuts will BOTH hurt vulnerable women, and that doesn't just suddenly become okay because one side isn't pro-trans.Guest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 02:11x2
ideological extremism of any political stripe is problematic. so tired of the deranged political commentator in here.
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