Why would your response to a picture like that be I love you??
To me it seemed more lighthearted than anything? Because their conversation had been pretty relaxed and even Jackie asking for pics didn’t seem all that serious. That’s how I read it anyway. Like the second Jackie got it she was giddy and smiley and it’s clear she sent the text without really thinking about how it would come across over text. If they’d been talking in person it would have come off more pleased/amused and teasing, I think.
But yeah I still wouldn’t have sent those words, —maybe instead the heart eyes emoji or something idk—because tone is very hard to read over text and even as a joke, I wouldn’t want the first time I said I loved someone to be over text. I think if she’d just send a quick follow up text reiterating that it wasn’t serious, things would have been fine between her and Leslie. Responding with all those increasingly hapless texts(understandable, given how her night went and Jackie’s general temperament) made it that much worse and if Leslie hadn’t been thinking it was serious before, once she saw Jackie’s follow up texts, she definitely got freaked out.
Yeah, she should have just waited and not freaked out trying to explain herself.
Why would your response to a picture like that be I love you??
To me it seemed more lighthearted than anything? Because their conversation had been pretty relaxed and even Jackie asking for pics didn’t seem all that serious. That’s how I read it anyway. Like the second Jackie got it she was giddy and smiley and it’s clear she sent the text without really thinking about how it would come across over text. If they’d been talking in person it would have come off more pleased/amused and teasing, I think.
But yeah I still wouldn’t have sent those words, —maybe instead the heart eyes emoji or something idk—because tone is very hard to read over text and even as a joke, I wouldn’t want the first time I said I loved someone to be over text. I think if she’d just send a quick follow up text reiterating that it wasn’t serious, things would have been fine between her and Leslie. Responding with all those increasingly hapless texts(understandable, given how her night went and Jackie’s general temperament) made it that much worse and if Leslie hadn’t been thinking it was serious before, once she saw Jackie’s follow up texts, she definitely got freaked out.
Yeah, she should have just waited and not freaked out trying to explain herself.
I think I'm enjoying this season more than the previous one.
I love the Jackie and Leslie stuff, but I'm equally invested in Renee and the club++, not including Ray. The accidental murder of Jorge was so stressful to watch!
Skimmed it but basically show starts with morning after of last episode. Leslie is leaving as she has court. She brings up that it seemed to be a big deal that she went down on Jackie (also a comment about Jackie saying is she sure she hasn’t done that before). Jackie says is she sure she wants to have that conversation now (in regards to Jackie having let her go down on her), calling it the “Butch conversation”.
No more scenes together but they do start sexting during the day - Leslie sends a nude to which Jackie responds “ I love you so much”
And then radio silence appears on Leslie’s side for the rest of the show with Jackie getting more angsty, ringing Leslie to tell her not to overthink it (the message in a vocal context would be light hearted etc as it was getting her through a annoying day of dealing with the fishing shit and not the drug side of policing and Ron was being annoying). She also sends lots of messages and you can see her wanting to drink (she doesn’t) at the end of the show.
Side note not related to these two - Renee shoots and kills Jorge and gets the cleaners to clean up and dump his body. She then turns up at Ray’s house and tells him she loves him!
Is this a fucking soap opera?! Okay I'm fucking through with this show. I don't give a fuck about Renee and Ray's story. Jorge was a good villian. Jackie's storyline is so fucking cliche, can they just chill a bit, who the fuck is writing these stories?
Okay I did not know that butch lesbians don’t let people reciprocate. At least I got that impression from her conversation with Leslie. Lesbian lingo can be so confusing.
That being said, I really just hope this was a misunderstanding. I hate to see Jackie lose it when she’s just barely sober. I love her dynamic with Leslie and I feel like it’s something that could be long lasting. And I’m not even saying happily ever after. There is so much angst that could be explored and it would be interesting to see them do it together.
Okay I did not know that butch lesbians don’t let people reciprocate. At least I got that impression from her conversation with Leslie. Lesbian lingo can be so confusing.
That being said, I really just hope this was a misunderstanding. I hate to see Jackie lose it when she’s just barely sober. I love her dynamic with Leslie and I feel like it’s something that could be long lasting. And I’m not even saying happily ever after. There is so much angst that could be explored and it would be interesting to see them do it together.
Not to mention they are so fucking hot together.
Not all, that type of butch is called Stone Butch. They're the opposite of pillow princess.
if this is the way they end I'm ok with that. Much rather this than a betrayal we've all been speculating about so far.
Also the show definitely surprised me by killing Daisy (I thought they'd drag out her CI thing a little longer) and then Jorge (definitely deserved). I thought Ray would've gotten something from that kid, did not expect him to get beaten up!
At this point I don't think I can guess what's going to happen with Jackie and Leslie, the show keeps shocking me!
Everything surprised me too. Especially the end and for Jorge, well can’t say I feel bad. Jackie and Leslie are great together but this season is just good overall. The bad guys are intriguing and not just stupid, the lead is good but complicated and the show on the whole flows much better than last season. I hope they get a couple more seasons and can keep up the momentum.
Finally, a proper scene with Leslie! I miss her on screen. We mostly saw her off screen except for the first few minutes of Episode 5. I hope Jackie doesn't mess this up (although knowing this show, something unexpected always happens)
honestly episode 5 was the best in terms of interesting drama with leslie and renee. i wasnt bored for one sec
I don't know that the drama with Leslie was THAT riveting
Da I definitely feel like this fling with Leslie made the show a lot more interesting but I always saw it as something short term and messy so I’m not a so invested as others seem to be. The phone scene made me laugh though, it was so real and the way it played out was rough. I’m really enjoying the show which is something I never thought I’d say, considering season 1.
Jackie has her heart broken by Leslie. Leslie said that although there were real moments the ‘I love you’ took it too far. Jackie goes to see her Dad and looks like there goes her sobriety
Jackie has her heart broken by Leslie. Leslie said that although there were real moments the ‘I love you’ took it too far. Jackie goes to see her Dad and looks like there goes her sobriety
And she was SO cold about it. That scene was just so wrong. Poor Jackie.
On a happier wlw note - I think Monica and her partner are engaged. She did an interview with the Bare magazine and in the last question ‘what are a few of you life’s bare essentials’ she ends with “ I’d have to say my ring. My partner gave it to me.” Seeing as the ring is work on the ring finger (although I’m terrible at getting the hands right) but Lauren German apparently slipped up to fans a while ago that she was newly engaged - looks like she is semi confirming it
Is Monica still dating that lady she used to date years ago? Sorry for the stupidly asked question, but I can't remember the name of the woman lol. I think she was working in production.
Jackie has her heart broken by Leslie. Leslie said that although there were real moments the ‘I love you’ took it too far. Jackie goes to see her Dad and looks like there goes her sobriety
And she was SO cold about it. That scene was just so wrong. Poor Jackie.
Yeah, this episode was brutal for Jackie. On a side note, I hate the Ray/Renee romance crap. I wanted Renee to be a badass bitch and screw over both Frankie and Ray and take over the business for her and her son but looks like they are making her a dumbass for stupid Ray
In other words, I wasn't expecting Devonne to be in season 2! But now Jackie prefers Leslie over her right? Poor Jackie, that send off was brutal though.
Rest in peace Jackie and Leslie (and her sobriety) or there's still some hope left for them?
Jackie has her heart broken by Leslie. Leslie said that although there were real moments the ‘I love you’ took it too far. Jackie goes to see her Dad and looks like there goes her sobriety
And she was SO cold about it. That scene was just so wrong. Poor Jackie.
In this day and age, is it believable for someone to send a topless pic to their fling, then totally ghost her for saying I love you? Leslie was incredibly sweet in Episode 4 but apparently she got a personality transplant in Episode 5 and 6.
Stone cold. Ice cold heartbreaker, this one.
Jackie has her heart broken by Leslie. Leslie said that although there were real moments the ‘I love you’ took it too far. Jackie goes to see her Dad and looks like there goes her sobriety
And she was SO cold about it. That scene was just so wrong. Poor Jackie.
In this day and age, is it believable for someone to send a topless pic to their fling, then totally ghost her for saying I love you? Leslie was incredibly sweet in Episode 4 but apparently she got a personality transplant in Episode 5 and 6.
Stone cold. Ice cold heartbreaker, this one.
How are people feeling about this being redeemable (or not)? Based on Ray and Renee in this episode they definitely aren't past the show's limits .
Leslie was definitely cruel but I feel like she wasn't much crueler than Jackie is to other women on the show. Obviously pulling the "I'm straight" card after giving clear emotional signals is very disrespectful and packs a special type of punch for gay women.
If Leslie was doing something else shady (owing Frankie for something etc.), she could be protecting Jackie by distancing?
Jackie has her heart broken by Leslie. Leslie said that although there were real moments the ‘I love you’ took it too far. Jackie goes to see her Dad and looks like there goes her sobriety
And she was SO cold about it. That scene was just so wrong. Poor Jackie.
In this day and age, is it believable for someone to send a topless pic to their fling, then totally ghost her for saying I love you? Leslie was incredibly sweet in Episode 4 but apparently she got a personality transplant in Episode 5 and 6.
Stone cold. Ice cold heartbreaker, this one.
How are people feeling about this being redeemable (or not)? Based on Ray and Renee in this episode they definitely aren't past the show's limits .
Leslie was definitely cruel but I feel like she wasn't much crueler than Jackie is to other women on the show. Obviously pulling the "I'm straight" card after giving clear emotional signals is very disrespectful and packs a special type of punch for gay women.
If Leslie was doing something else shady (owing Frankie for something etc.), she could be protecting Jackie by distancing?
That was so brutal and unexpected. Leslie did show signs of caring for Jackie. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was more to the story but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
And I’m sorry. NO straight girl eats pussy. Maybe experimentally when first checking out their sexuality but not at Leslie’s age unless you’re questioning your identity. If you’re having sex with a woman (both giving and receiving) you gay. Or at least bi.
Posting a picture and context under the spoiler tag. Wondering if it is from a scene that hasn't aired yet, or if I'm forgetting the scene where it already did.
This clip was on the general promo for Starz shows that aired before 2x06 tonight. Looks like Jackie and Leslie checking out Frankie's private plane? Just wondering if we already saw this earlier or if it's upcoming.
Posting a picture and context under the spoiler tag. Wondering if it is from a scene that hasn't aired yet, or if I'm forgetting the scene where it already did.
This clip was on the general promo for Starz shows that aired before 2x06 tonight. Looks like Jackie and Leslie checking out Frankie's private plane? Just wondering if we already saw this earlier or if it's upcoming.
Posting a picture and context under the spoiler tag. Wondering if it is from a scene that hasn't aired yet, or if I'm forgetting the scene where it already did.
This clip was on the general promo for Starz shows that aired before 2x06 tonight. Looks like Jackie and Leslie checking out Frankie's private plane? Just wondering if we already saw this earlier or if it's upcoming.
Jackie has her heart broken by Leslie. Leslie said that although there were real moments the ‘I love you’ took it too far. Jackie goes to see her Dad and looks like there goes her sobriety
And she was SO cold about it. That scene was just so wrong. Poor Jackie.
In this day and age, is it believable for someone to send a topless pic to their fling, then totally ghost her for saying I love you? Leslie was incredibly sweet in Episode 4 but apparently she got a personality transplant in Episode 5 and 6.
Stone cold. Ice cold heartbreaker, this one.
How are people feeling about this being redeemable (or not)? Based on Ray and Renee in this episode they definitely aren't past the show's limits .
Leslie was definitely cruel but I feel like she wasn't much crueler than Jackie is to other women on the show. Obviously pulling the "I'm straight" card after giving clear emotional signals is very disrespectful and packs a special type of punch for gay women.
If Leslie was doing something else shady (owing Frankie for something etc.), she could be protecting Jackie by distancing?
That was so brutal and unexpected. Leslie did show signs of caring for Jackie. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was more to the story but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
And I’m sorry. NO straight girl eats pussy. Maybe experimentally when first checking out their sexuality but not at Leslie’s age unless you’re questioning your identity. If you’re having sex with a woman (both giving and receiving) you gay. Or at least bi.
Quoted from anon: NO straight girl eats pussy. I agree. At least have the guts to call yourself bi after all that. Or at least spaghetti(?) Sorry if that's offensive.
Such a shame since they both look good together.
Their scenes are but at least we had a good run of 3 to 4 episodes.
This episode was a lot. That cut scene to Jackie going down on the other lady rivalled the L Word sex scenes lol but Jackie was just as much of an ass to her as I expected. Leslie didn’t really surprise me either but she was pretty cold, I can’t tell if they’re really done for good though. And Jackie spiralled a lot faster than I thought she would, but idk if she’s going to totally fall off the wagon. I hope not but this show doesn’t spare anyone.
Is Monica still dating that lady she used to date years ago? Sorry for the stupidly asked question, but I can't remember the name of the woman lol. I think she was working in production.
Is Monica still dating that lady she used to date years ago? Sorry for the stupidly asked question, but I can't remember the name of the woman lol. I think she was working in production.
This episode was a lot. That cut scene to Jackie going down on the other lady rivalled the L Word sex scenes lol but Jackie was just as much of an ass to her as I expected. Leslie didn’t really surprise me either but she was pretty cold, I can’t tell if they’re really done for good though. And Jackie spiralled a lot faster than I thought she would, but idk if she’s going to totally fall off the wagon. I hope not but this show doesn’t spare anyone.
She was being a complete asshole in that scene but damn that move when she wiped her mouth on the bed sheet. MS. RAYMUND!!!
Although yes, Jackie was an asshole to Devonne’s friend, I saw it more as her just not being able to handle even the remotest vulnerability after Leslie. The last time she let someone touch her she ended up really badly hurt and you can see her frustration when she tries to get off to Leslie’s pic after and all she can feel is pain.
This episode was a lot. That cut scene to Jackie going down on the other lady rivalled the L Word sex scenes lol but Jackie was just as much of an ass to her as I expected. Leslie didn’t really surprise me either but she was pretty cold, I can’t tell if they’re really done for good though. And Jackie spiralled a lot faster than I thought she would, but idk if she’s going to totally fall off the wagon. I hope not but this show doesn’t spare anyone.
She was being a complete asshole in that scene but damn that move when she wiped her mouth on the bed sheet. MS. RAYMUND!!!
And then all the eye rolls after she got the lady off! That part kinda had me dying I’m not gonna lie
I love this show. I love this character. But I’m not sure how much of her being tortured I can endure. Like, yeah, she’s an asshole. But it’s obvious it’s because she doesn’t want to be vulnerable. Then she lets herself be vulnerable and she gets run over like a freight train. And not once but twice if you count Devonne.
In the mean time we get to see the toxic hetero train wreck just chugging along through the station. Total bulls—-.
This episode was a lot. That cut scene to Jackie going down on the other lady rivalled the L Word sex scenes lol but Jackie was just as much of an ass to her as I expected. Leslie didn’t really surprise me either but she was pretty cold, I can’t tell if they’re really done for good though. And Jackie spiralled a lot faster than I thought she would, but idk if she’s going to totally fall off the wagon. I hope not but this show doesn’t spare anyone.
She was being a complete asshole in that scene but damn that move when she wiped her mouth on the bed sheet. MS. RAYMUND!!!
And then all the eye rolls after she got the lady off! That part kinda had me dying I’m not gonna lie
Yep, like it has been said before, nothing like an actor with first hand knowledge. I can't feel too bad for the friend, Decline had told her about how shit Jackie was and she was sitting through that whole uncomfortable exchange with Devonne.
Regarding everything else, I still think Renee is playing Ray. She knows she is going to need protection if/when Frankie finds out about Jorge so I'm going to think he is just an ace she is playing. I felt sorry for Charmaine but I like how it ties all the storylines together. She nay be out for blood because of the way the dice fell leading to her sisters death. The fallout from Ed and his wife was hurtful and seems like addiction runs in Jackie's family.
This episode was a lot. That cut scene to Jackie going down on the other lady rivalled the L Word sex scenes lol but Jackie was just as much of an ass to her as I expected. Leslie didn’t really surprise me either but she was pretty cold, I can’t tell if they’re really done for good though. And Jackie spiralled a lot faster than I thought she would, but idk if she’s going to totally fall off the wagon. I hope not but this show doesn’t spare anyone.
She was being a complete asshole in that scene but damn that move when she wiped her mouth on the bed sheet. MS. RAYMUND!!!
And then all the eye rolls after she got the lady off! That part kinda had me dying I’m not gonna lie
That scene was not sexy at all. But the way she was moving her mouth sure was.
I love this show. I love this character. But I’m not sure how much of her being tortured I can endure. Like, yeah, she’s an asshole. But it’s obvious it’s because she doesn’t want to be vulnerable. Then she lets herself be vulnerable and she gets run over like a freight train. And not once but twice if you count Devonne.
In the mean time we get to see the toxic hetero train wreck just chugging along through the station. Total bulls—-.
I can't say that I love Jackie's character. She's a huge asshole. I watch the show because my girlfriend like it so we watch it together. Jackie and Leslie were hot together, not gonna deny it but Leslie is such a red flag. I mean she slept with Ray, which goes to show how shit her tastes are
This is why you don't sleep with bihets, Jackie...
Nobody can be happy on this show anyway. I certainly don't expect happiness with Renee and Ray
Hi all. Is this show worth watching? I have Starz for a couple of months so it'd be really easy to check it out but I don't know much about it
If you're into shows about murders/drugs/strip clubs set on Cape Cod with a lesbian liaison cop who gets a ton of pussy but is often a (drunk) asshole, that show is for you!
Most characters are unlikable but it's still interesting imo. I prefer the second season (so far) to the first
Hi all. Is this show worth watching? I have Starz for a couple of months so it'd be really easy to check it out but I don't know much about it
If you're into shows about murders/drugs/strip clubs set on Cape Cod with a lesbian liaison cop who gets a ton of pussy but is often a (drunk) asshole, that show is for you!
Most characters are unlikable but it's still interesting imo. I prefer the second season (so far) to the first
Thank you for the reply! lol you actually made me kind of curious about it, so I might as well give it a go
I like Jackie a lot, because she’s a prickly asshole but not actually a bad person. And with the way she was raised, who can blame her for how she turned out. There’s something to be said for taking responsibility and I think she tried to get her life on track for a while there, but addiction is a beast and letting your guard down and being vulnerable(only to get shot down)is hard. Actually practicing healthy coping mechanisms in the face of all that is easier said than done. That said, I think she’s going to have one or two major setbacks before she’s finally on the right path for good, because that’s realistic and also just the nature of dramatic TV.
I love this show. I love this character. But I’m not sure how much of her being tortured I can endure. Like, yeah, she’s an asshole. But it’s obvious it’s because she doesn’t want to be vulnerable. Then she lets herself be vulnerable and she gets run over like a freight train. And not once but twice if you count Devonne.
In the mean time we get to see the toxic hetero train wreck just chugging along through the station. Total bulls—-.
I can't say that I love Jackie's character. She's a huge asshole. I watch the show because my girlfriend like it so we watch it together. Jackie and Leslie were hot together, not gonna deny it but Leslie is such a red flag. I mean she slept with Ray, which goes to show how shit her tastes are
This is why you don't sleep with bihets, Jackie...
Nobody can be happy on this show anyway. I certainly don't expect happiness with Renee and Ray
Lets not hate on bisexuals please! Leslie identifies as straight (even if she totally isn't lol) not bi, and thats the problem
Can’t remember if someone already asked this but does anyone think there’s hope still for Jackie and Leslie? I could sort of see Leslie coming around and admitting
she had feelings once she realizes how much she hurt Jackie cuz she clearly did have feelings. But she was also SO cold last episode I’m not sure. We know Jackie’s gonna spiral too and that’s not exactly gonna make Leslie want to take her back…
I’m really bummed about Leslie and Jackie. I mean, not only did she go down on her but she practically BEGGED even though Jackie told her no. That’s not straight girl behavior. Not at all. If Leslie starfished the whole time, then yeah, that’s buyable. But she was all in. Literally.
I completely get the drama of it and all that but damn it sucks.