NCIS: Hawai'i

[Guest]

I think we can get more insight on both Kate and Lucy’s families or how they grew up.

Kate seems to be an overachiever who probably always thrived to be the best at whatever she did - including singing
And grew up not letting emotions/feelings come between that

[Guest]

I find Whistlers version better than original

[Guest]

I find Whistlers version better than original

I was surprised at how much i liked her voice.

I also really appreciated the Ukelele sound playing the song at the end.
They should have created a recording

[Guest]

Ernie practically waiting for their little exchange to be done before announcing he'd done his bit was one of my favourite small details from the finale

For all of Ernie’s posturing about not getting involved in other peoples dramas, he thrives on it. So their bickering was at least a bit entertaining to him. What cracked me up was how shocked he was when Kate started serenading Lucy. He didn’t see that coming, which surprised me a little. One would think that someone in NCIS would have at least entertained the thought, by now, that Kate is borderline autistic. It explains why she is such a literal thinker, and why she is socially awkward. Maybe Jane has caught on, but keeps it to herself. She likes Kate and values her as a person, and not just for her excellent work. Even as much as Lucy loves Kate, I don’t think she has figured out what makes Kate tick. I hope they examine this next season, as well as Lucy’s family and their influence on her. I love her feistiness, but she’s a shade on the hard headed side when she’s thinking black vs white. We saw some growth with Kate this season. I would love to see Lucy expand her thinking a little more next season.

What do you think are Kate’s traits that have her on the spectrum?
I think it’s a possibility too, something they could somehow explore.

I was discussing autism with a friend the other day and she pointed out 3 distinctive traits, 2 of which match Kate. Literal thinking is the one I honed in on right away. Socially awkward/uncomfortable with others can be a sign, too; which we know Kate exhibits that trait. The third trait mentioned didn't seem to track for me. Autistic people don't like to be physically touched according to my friend. They do well in jobs that don't require much interaction with other people. They're also usually highly intelligent, which again; matches Kate. I've been thinking this since episode 7. My discussion with my friend came from a completely different topic, but reminded me of Kate.

Please no. I work with people with Autism every day. She does not exhibit any of these traits. She is able and wants to keep her work and personal life separate. She takes her job very seriously and I think there may be some back story as to why she takes her job so seriously aside from just wanting to keep people safe but she does not exhibit any signs of Autism.

I saw that thread on Twitter and wanted to respond so badly but ultimately those tweets just scream attention for fake woke points.

I have been working with autistic people, mainly children, for the past 18 years and Kate has got none of those traits I see every day at work. It's so bizarre to me how some people equate being calm, collected, emotionally guarded and socially awkward with autism, as if it isn't absolutely intrinsic to functional human beings in modern society. I know Kate is a fictional character and it is not like it's possible to truly diagnose her but from everything we have seen, as a professional, I would never even ponder the possibility of her being in the spectrum.

[Guest]

For all of Ernie’s posturing about not getting involved in other peoples dramas, he thrives on it. So their bickering was at least a bit entertaining to him. What cracked me up was how shocked he was when Kate started serenading Lucy. He didn’t see that coming, which surprised me a little. One would think that someone in NCIS would have at least entertained the thought, by now, that Kate is borderline autistic. It explains why she is such a literal thinker, and why she is socially awkward. Maybe Jane has caught on, but keeps it to herself. She likes Kate and values her as a person, and not just for her excellent work. Even as much as Lucy loves Kate, I don’t think she has figured out what makes Kate tick. I hope they examine this next season, as well as Lucy’s family and their influence on her. I love her feistiness, but she’s a shade on the hard headed side when she’s thinking black vs white. We saw some growth with Kate this season. I would love to see Lucy expand her thinking a little more next season.

What do you think are Kate’s traits that have her on the spectrum?
I think it’s a possibility too, something they could somehow explore.

I was discussing autism with a friend the other day and she pointed out 3 distinctive traits, 2 of which match Kate. Literal thinking is the one I honed in on right away. Socially awkward/uncomfortable with others can be a sign, too; which we know Kate exhibits that trait. The third trait mentioned didn't seem to track for me. Autistic people don't like to be physically touched according to my friend. They do well in jobs that don't require much interaction with other people. They're also usually highly intelligent, which again; matches Kate. I've been thinking this since episode 7. My discussion with my friend came from a completely different topic, but reminded me of Kate.

Please no. I work with people with Autism every day. She does not exhibit any of these traits. She is able and wants to keep her work and personal life separate. She takes her job very seriously and I think there may be some back story as to why she takes her job so seriously aside from just wanting to keep people safe but she does not exhibit any signs of Autism.

I saw that thread on Twitter and wanted to respond so badly but ultimately those tweets just scream attention for fake woke points.

I have been working with autistic people, mainly children, for the past 18 years and Kate has got none of those traits I see every day at work. It's so bizarre to me how some people equate being calm, collected, emotionally guarded and socially awkward with autism, as if it isn't absolutely intrinsic to functional human beings in modern society. I know Kate is a fictional character and it is not like it's possible to truly diagnose her but from everything we have seen, as a professional, I would never even ponder the possibility of her being in the spectrum.

Same. She has stated that she does not have the same relationship with her coworkers that Lucy does so of course she isn’t an open book and willing to put her life out there. Lucy and her team have a very close relationship and we have seen Kate start to open up to them. None of this is Autism.

[Wayhaughtshipper18p]

What do you think are Kate’s traits that have her on the spectrum?
I think it’s a possibility too, something they could somehow explore.

I was discussing autism with a friend the other day and she pointed out 3 distinctive traits, 2 of which match Kate. Literal thinking is the one I honed in on right away. Socially awkward/uncomfortable with others can be a sign, too; which we know Kate exhibits that trait. The third trait mentioned didn't seem to track for me. Autistic people don't like to be physically touched according to my friend. They do well in jobs that don't require much interaction with other people. They're also usually highly intelligent, which again; matches Kate. I've been thinking this since episode 7. My discussion with my friend came from a completely different topic, but reminded me of Kate.

Please no. I work with people with Autism every day. She does not exhibit any of these traits. She is able and wants to keep her work and personal life separate. She takes her job very seriously and I think there may be some back story as to why she takes her job so seriously aside from just wanting to keep people safe but she does not exhibit any signs of Autism.

I saw that thread on Twitter and wanted to respond so badly but ultimately those tweets just scream attention for fake woke points.

I have been working with autistic people, mainly children, for the past 18 years and Kate has got none of those traits I see every day at work. It's so bizarre to me how some people equate being calm, collected, emotionally guarded and socially awkward with autism, as if it isn't absolutely intrinsic to functional human beings in modern society. I know Kate is a fictional character and it is not like it's possible to truly diagnose her but from everything we have seen, as a professional, I would never even ponder the possibility of her being in the spectrum.

Same. She has stated that she does not have the same relationship with her coworkers that Lucy does so of course she isn’t an open book and willing to put her life out there. Lucy and her team have a very close relationship and we have seen Kate start to open up to them. None of this is Autism.

Well, I completely defer to you experts. My friend has a close friend with a son who has Asperger Syndrome, but it hardly makes her an expert.

[Guest]

To me what I love is that difference between them, like heart and head. Lucy being all heart and Kate all head.
And going to season 2 it should be good to see how they are like this in a relationship.

[Guest]

I've rewatched this so many times... Kudos to Tori for all the emotion and desperation she manages to convey with her voice and expressions in those 15 seconds. This is why I didn't mind those 10+ episodes of angst after the breakup, because we got to see how miserable they were when separated and that made this reunion so much more heartwarming. No matter what happens from now on, I'm glad we got this complete story arc for them in the first season.

[Guest]

I've rewatched this so many times... Kudos to Tori for all the emotion and desperation she manages to convey with her voice and expressions in those 15 seconds. This is why I didn't mind those 10+ episodes of angst after the breakup, because we got to see how miserable they were when separated and that made this reunion so much more heartwarming. No matter what happens from now on, I'm glad we got this complete story arc for them in the first season.

She nailed the delivery.
I think I speak for most people that when she said “and I can’t go another day without you” we really felt it so hard, what a great punch.

Their angst and road to reconciliation is one of the best and most satisfying I have seen to be honest. When they got together, I dont feel like anything was missing, it was the right moment.
It was done through different steps that make it clear they had to end up together and overcome the hurt of the breakup.
It cleared some issues that could come in the future and now we know they are resolved.

Also due to the mix of great angsty scenes but also scenes where they were comfortable with each other, smiled, kept being into each other… it made it real

[Guest]

What I find interesting is Kate says, We both know what it is like to lose someone we love to war., during her Interrogation scene with the Russian agent. Makes me wonder if this will develop into Kate’s backstory in a future episode or not. I believe it would be a good one to see all brain Kate handle something so emotionally challenging.

[Guest]

For all of Ernie’s posturing about not getting involved in other peoples dramas, he thrives on it. So their bickering was at least a bit entertaining to him. What cracked me up was how shocked he was when Kate started serenading Lucy. He didn’t see that coming, which surprised me a little. One would think that someone in NCIS would have at least entertained the thought, by now, that Kate is borderline autistic. It explains why she is such a literal thinker, and why she is socially awkward. Maybe Jane has caught on, but keeps it to herself. She likes Kate and values her as a person, and not just for her excellent work. Even as much as Lucy loves Kate, I don’t think she has figured out what makes Kate tick. I hope they examine this next season, as well as Lucy’s family and their influence on her. I love her feistiness, but she’s a shade on the hard headed side when she’s thinking black vs white. We saw some growth with Kate this season. I would love to see Lucy expand her thinking a little more next season.

What do you think are Kate’s traits that have her on the spectrum?
I think it’s a possibility too, something they could somehow explore.

I was discussing autism with a friend the other day and she pointed out 3 distinctive traits, 2 of which match Kate. Literal thinking is the one I honed in on right away. Socially awkward/uncomfortable with others can be a sign, too; which we know Kate exhibits that trait. The third trait mentioned didn't seem to track for me. Autistic people don't like to be physically touched according to my friend. They do well in jobs that don't require much interaction with other people. They're also usually highly intelligent, which again; matches Kate. I've been thinking this since episode 7. My discussion with my friend came from a completely different topic, but reminded me of Kate.

Please no. I work with people with Autism every day. She does not exhibit any of these traits. She is able and wants to keep her work and personal life separate. She takes her job very seriously and I think there may be some back story as to why she takes her job so seriously aside from just wanting to keep people safe but she does not exhibit any signs of Autism.

I saw that thread on Twitter and wanted to respond so badly but ultimately those tweets just scream attention for fake woke points.

I have been working with autistic people, mainly children, for the past 18 years and Kate has got none of those traits I see every day at work. It's so bizarre to me how some people equate being calm, collected, emotionally guarded and socially awkward with autism, as if it isn't absolutely intrinsic to functional human beings in modern society. I know Kate is a fictional character and it is not like it's possible to truly diagnose her but from everything we have seen, as a professional, I would never even ponder the possibility of her being in the spectrum.

Well I will give my perspective since I’m an expert on the subject: I’m myself Asperger - or Autistic or on a spectrum since some people doesn’t like to say Asperger nowadays but I prefer. I saw a lot of myself -metaphorically speaking- in her character. I don’t think it would be wrong to headcanon her as Asperger if some people want to.

[Guest]

What do you think are Kate’s traits that have her on the spectrum?
I think it’s a possibility too, something they could somehow explore.

I was discussing autism with a friend the other day and she pointed out 3 distinctive traits, 2 of which match Kate. Literal thinking is the one I honed in on right away. Socially awkward/uncomfortable with others can be a sign, too; which we know Kate exhibits that trait. The third trait mentioned didn't seem to track for me. Autistic people don't like to be physically touched according to my friend. They do well in jobs that don't require much interaction with other people. They're also usually highly intelligent, which again; matches Kate. I've been thinking this since episode 7. My discussion with my friend came from a completely different topic, but reminded me of Kate.

Please no. I work with people with Autism every day. She does not exhibit any of these traits. She is able and wants to keep her work and personal life separate. She takes her job very seriously and I think there may be some back story as to why she takes her job so seriously aside from just wanting to keep people safe but she does not exhibit any signs of Autism.

I saw that thread on Twitter and wanted to respond so badly but ultimately those tweets just scream attention for fake woke points.

I have been working with autistic people, mainly children, for the past 18 years and Kate has got none of those traits I see every day at work. It's so bizarre to me how some people equate being calm, collected, emotionally guarded and socially awkward with autism, as if it isn't absolutely intrinsic to functional human beings in modern society. I know Kate is a fictional character and it is not like it's possible to truly diagnose her but from everything we have seen, as a professional, I would never even ponder the possibility of her being in the spectrum.

Well I will give my perspective since I’m an expert on the subject: I’m myself Asperger - or Autistic or on a spectrum since some people doesn’t like to say Asperger nowadays but I prefer. I saw a lot of myself -metaphorically speaking- in her character. I don’t think it would be wrong to headcanon her as Asperger if some people want to.

That is the thing, though, we may share similar characteristics to adults/children with autism, but that in no way means we'd be diagnosed the same way. Introverts in general find it hard to make that distinction.

But hey, I see no harm in autistic people who head canon Kate as someone in the spectrum if they want to feel better connected to her/better about themselves. That's never what it was all about.

[Guest]

I was discussing autism with a friend the other day and she pointed out 3 distinctive traits, 2 of which match Kate. Literal thinking is the one I honed in on right away. Socially awkward/uncomfortable with others can be a sign, too; which we know Kate exhibits that trait. The third trait mentioned didn't seem to track for me. Autistic people don't like to be physically touched according to my friend. They do well in jobs that don't require much interaction with other people. They're also usually highly intelligent, which again; matches Kate. I've been thinking this since episode 7. My discussion with my friend came from a completely different topic, but reminded me of Kate.

Please no. I work with people with Autism every day. She does not exhibit any of these traits. She is able and wants to keep her work and personal life separate. She takes her job very seriously and I think there may be some back story as to why she takes her job so seriously aside from just wanting to keep people safe but she does not exhibit any signs of Autism.

I saw that thread on Twitter and wanted to respond so badly but ultimately those tweets just scream attention for fake woke points.

I have been working with autistic people, mainly children, for the past 18 years and Kate has got none of those traits I see every day at work. It's so bizarre to me how some people equate being calm, collected, emotionally guarded and socially awkward with autism, as if it isn't absolutely intrinsic to functional human beings in modern society. I know Kate is a fictional character and it is not like it's possible to truly diagnose her but from everything we have seen, as a professional, I would never even ponder the possibility of her being in the spectrum.

Well I will give my perspective since I’m an expert on the subject: I’m myself Asperger - or Autistic or on a spectrum since some people doesn’t like to say Asperger nowadays but I prefer. I saw a lot of myself -metaphorically speaking- in her character. I don’t think it would be wrong to headcanon her as Asperger if some people want to.

That is the thing, though, we may share similar characteristics to adults/children with autism, but that in no way means we'd be diagnosed the same way. Introverts in general find it hard to make that distinction.

But hey, I see no harm in autistic people who head canon Kate as someone in the spectrum if they want to feel better connected to her/better about themselves. That's never what it was all about.

There is a difference between being an introvert and the way Kate acted on certain occasions. It’s not because she’s introvert that she is sometimes too literal or that she ghosted her ex because she thought it will work and that’s how you break up with someone lol. This weirdness is something that hits home for me. That’s doesn’t mean she’s acting autistic on every scene tho. Mind you, in real life, people rarely guess I’m austitic because it’s socially more acceptable for women to be shy or introvert. But that’s when these specific details come in that it gives yourself away. That’s why I wondered about Kate too.

Also no one said it was all about that but that’s definitely something that an Asperger will notice. I’m glad non autistic did too. If a few anons watch the show and identify or make the connection, it’s fine.

[Guest]

Please no. I work with people with Autism every day. She does not exhibit any of these traits. She is able and wants to keep her work and personal life separate. She takes her job very seriously and I think there may be some back story as to why she takes her job so seriously aside from just wanting to keep people safe but she does not exhibit any signs of Autism.

I saw that thread on Twitter and wanted to respond so badly but ultimately those tweets just scream attention for fake woke points.

I have been working with autistic people, mainly children, for the past 18 years and Kate has got none of those traits I see every day at work. It's so bizarre to me how some people equate being calm, collected, emotionally guarded and socially awkward with autism, as if it isn't absolutely intrinsic to functional human beings in modern society. I know Kate is a fictional character and it is not like it's possible to truly diagnose her but from everything we have seen, as a professional, I would never even ponder the possibility of her being in the spectrum.

Well I will give my perspective since I’m an expert on the subject: I’m myself Asperger - or Autistic or on a spectrum since some people doesn’t like to say Asperger nowadays but I prefer. I saw a lot of myself -metaphorically speaking- in her character. I don’t think it would be wrong to headcanon her as Asperger if some people want to.

That is the thing, though, we may share similar characteristics to adults/children with autism, but that in no way means we'd be diagnosed the same way. Introverts in general find it hard to make that distinction.

But hey, I see no harm in autistic people who head canon Kate as someone in the spectrum if they want to feel better connected to her/better about themselves. That's never what it was all about.

There is a difference between being an introvert and the way Kate acted on certain occasions. It’s not because she’s introvert that she is sometimes too literal or that she ghosted her ex because she thought it will work and that’s how you break up with someone lol. This weirdness is something that hits home for me. That’s doesn’t mean she’s acting autistic on every scene tho. Mind you, in real life, people rarely guess I’m austitic because it’s socially more acceptable for women to be shy or introvert. But that’s when these specific details come in that it gives yourself away. That’s why I wondered about Kate too.

Also no one said it was all about that but that’s definitely something that an Asperger will notice. I’m glad non autistic did too. If a few anons watch the show and identify or make the connection, it’s fine.

Again, the way Kate acted on certain occasions doesn't mean she's autistic just because it's something some on the spectrum would relate to. And yes, that is something introverts in general absolutely would relate to as well. I am one and I do. And again, in real life, people would rarely guess you're autistic because depending on the autism, that's something only a professional could properly diagnose. Which is why we've had what... two professionals here telling you otherwise. You identifying with Kate for whatever reason doesn't make her on the spectrum or you any less autistic. Literally no one said it's not fine to make a connection. There's a difference between connecting and actually making an affirmation.

[Guest]

I saw that thread on Twitter and wanted to respond so badly but ultimately those tweets just scream attention for fake woke points.

I have been working with autistic people, mainly children, for the past 18 years and Kate has got none of those traits I see every day at work. It's so bizarre to me how some people equate being calm, collected, emotionally guarded and socially awkward with autism, as if it isn't absolutely intrinsic to functional human beings in modern society. I know Kate is a fictional character and it is not like it's possible to truly diagnose her but from everything we have seen, as a professional, I would never even ponder the possibility of her being in the spectrum.

Well I will give my perspective since I’m an expert on the subject: I’m myself Asperger - or Autistic or on a spectrum since some people doesn’t like to say Asperger nowadays but I prefer. I saw a lot of myself -metaphorically speaking- in her character. I don’t think it would be wrong to headcanon her as Asperger if some people want to.

That is the thing, though, we may share similar characteristics to adults/children with autism, but that in no way means we'd be diagnosed the same way. Introverts in general find it hard to make that distinction.

But hey, I see no harm in autistic people who head canon Kate as someone in the spectrum if they want to feel better connected to her/better about themselves. That's never what it was all about.

There is a difference between being an introvert and the way Kate acted on certain occasions. It’s not because she’s introvert that she is sometimes too literal or that she ghosted her ex because she thought it will work and that’s how you break up with someone lol. This weirdness is something that hits home for me. That’s doesn’t mean she’s acting autistic on every scene tho. Mind you, in real life, people rarely guess I’m austitic because it’s socially more acceptable for women to be shy or introvert. But that’s when these specific details come in that it gives yourself away. That’s why I wondered about Kate too.

Also no one said it was all about that but that’s definitely something that an Asperger will notice. I’m glad non autistic did too. If a few anons watch the show and identify or make the connection, it’s fine.

Again, the way Kate acted on certain occasions doesn't mean she's autistic just because it's something some on the spectrum would relate to. And yes, that is something introverts in general absolutely would relate to as well. I am one and I do. And again, in real life, people would rarely guess you're autistic because depending on the autism, that's something only a professional could properly diagnose. Which is why we've had what... two professionals here telling you otherwise. You identifying with Kate for whatever reason doesn't make her on the spectrum or you any less autistic. Literally no one said it's not fine to make a connection. There's a difference between connecting and actually making an affirmation.

You're going to tell me... someone who is autistic how it works? Women on the spectrum are less easy to spot than men because autism in women manisfest differently and women "fit" more easily -that's a perpective- than men, hence why many many women who are austistic aren't guessed as Asperger by their peers or friends, contrary to boys and men. That was simply the point I was trying to make because I live it every day, you know as an asperger. and that many people confuse my weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness or being introvert.

Also, I don't see what's wrong with saying Kate could be austistic and why you're acting all strange as if a character needs a certified diagnosis with a fictional professional to prove anything, we're mainly talking about headcanon here. If Asperger or non asperger wonder about Kate being Aspeger, live with it.

[Guest]

Please no. I work with people with Autism every day. She does not exhibit any of these traits. She is able and wants to keep her work and personal life separate. She takes her job very seriously and I think there may be some back story as to why she takes her job so seriously aside from just wanting to keep people safe but she does not exhibit any signs of Autism.

I saw that thread on Twitter and wanted to respond so badly but ultimately those tweets just scream attention for fake woke points.

I have been working with autistic people, mainly children, for the past 18 years and Kate has got none of those traits I see every day at work. It's so bizarre to me how some people equate being calm, collected, emotionally guarded and socially awkward with autism, as if it isn't absolutely intrinsic to functional human beings in modern society. I know Kate is a fictional character and it is not like it's possible to truly diagnose her but from everything we have seen, as a professional, I would never even ponder the possibility of her being in the spectrum.

Well I will give my perspective since I’m an expert on the subject: I’m myself Asperger - or Autistic or on a spectrum since some people doesn’t like to say Asperger nowadays but I prefer. I saw a lot of myself -metaphorically speaking- in her character. I don’t think it would be wrong to headcanon her as Asperger if some people want to.

That is the thing, though, we may share similar characteristics to adults/children with autism, but that in no way means we'd be diagnosed the same way. Introverts in general find it hard to make that distinction.

But hey, I see no harm in autistic people who head canon Kate as someone in the spectrum if they want to feel better connected to her/better about themselves. That's never what it was all about.

There is a difference between being an introvert and the way Kate acted on certain occasions. It’s not because she’s introvert that she is sometimes too literal or that she ghosted her ex because she thought it will work and that’s how you break up with someone lol. This weirdness is something that hits home for me. That’s doesn’t mean she’s acting autistic on every scene tho. Mind you, in real life, people rarely guess I’m austitic because it’s socially more acceptable for women to be shy or introvert. But that’s when these specific details come in that it gives yourself away. That’s why I wondered about Kate too.

Also no one said it was all about that but that’s definitely something that an Asperger will notice. I’m glad non autistic did too. If a few anons watch the show and identify or make the connection, it’s fine.

Thanks for sharing this perspective.
It’s not something I experience or I know about, but we always learn from reading first experience.

[Guest]

Well I will give my perspective since I’m an expert on the subject: I’m myself Asperger - or Autistic or on a spectrum since some people doesn’t like to say Asperger nowadays but I prefer. I saw a lot of myself -metaphorically speaking- in her character. I don’t think it would be wrong to headcanon her as Asperger if some people want to.

That is the thing, though, we may share similar characteristics to adults/children with autism, but that in no way means we'd be diagnosed the same way. Introverts in general find it hard to make that distinction.

But hey, I see no harm in autistic people who head canon Kate as someone in the spectrum if they want to feel better connected to her/better about themselves. That's never what it was all about.

There is a difference between being an introvert and the way Kate acted on certain occasions. It’s not because she’s introvert that she is sometimes too literal or that she ghosted her ex because she thought it will work and that’s how you break up with someone lol. This weirdness is something that hits home for me. That’s doesn’t mean she’s acting autistic on every scene tho. Mind you, in real life, people rarely guess I’m austitic because it’s socially more acceptable for women to be shy or introvert. But that’s when these specific details come in that it gives yourself away. That’s why I wondered about Kate too.

Also no one said it was all about that but that’s definitely something that an Asperger will notice. I’m glad non autistic did too. If a few anons watch the show and identify or make the connection, it’s fine.

Again, the way Kate acted on certain occasions doesn't mean she's autistic just because it's something some on the spectrum would relate to. And yes, that is something introverts in general absolutely would relate to as well. I am one and I do. And again, in real life, people would rarely guess you're autistic because depending on the autism, that's something only a professional could properly diagnose. Which is why we've had what... two professionals here telling you otherwise. You identifying with Kate for whatever reason doesn't make her on the spectrum or you any less autistic. Literally no one said it's not fine to make a connection. There's a difference between connecting and actually making an affirmation.

You're going to tell me... someone who is autistic how it works? Women on the spectrum are less easy to spot than men because autism in women manisfest differently and women "fit" more easily -that's a perpective- than men, hence why many many women who are austistic aren't guessed as Asperger by their peers or friends, contrary to boys and men. That was simply the point I was trying to make because I live it every day, you know as an asperger. and that many people confuse my weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness or being introvert.

Also, I don't see what's wrong with saying Kate could be austistic and why you're acting all strange as if a character needs a certified diagnosis with a fictional professional to prove anything, we're mainly talking about headcanon here. If Asperger or non asperger wonder about Kate being Aspeger, live with it.

Given that I am a psychiatrist and without people like me, you wouldn't have a diagnosis, yes, I am. Your "weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness" isn't what makes you or anyone austistic, or else there would be very few non-autistic people out there. That is now how any of this works or how it is perceived, much less diagnosed, therefore the implications that a fictional character who presents those characteristics could be autistic is a fallacy. It's that simple.

Again, one said there is anything wrong with it, only that kids making threads on Twitter about a disorder as if they have any knowledge of what they are talking about is factually wrong and actually harmful. This isn't about headcanons. You can headcanon her as a PB&J sandwich if it makes you feel any better, it literally makes no difference.

[Guest]

I don't quite understand why Lucy tried to walk away,. Embarrased maybe? She was waiting for her all sad in the party,right?

[Guest]

That is the thing, though, we may share similar characteristics to adults/children with autism, but that in no way means we'd be diagnosed the same way. Introverts in general find it hard to make that distinction.

But hey, I see no harm in autistic people who head canon Kate as someone in the spectrum if they want to feel better connected to her/better about themselves. That's never what it was all about.

There is a difference between being an introvert and the way Kate acted on certain occasions. It’s not because she’s introvert that she is sometimes too literal or that she ghosted her ex because she thought it will work and that’s how you break up with someone lol. This weirdness is something that hits home for me. That’s doesn’t mean she’s acting autistic on every scene tho. Mind you, in real life, people rarely guess I’m austitic because it’s socially more acceptable for women to be shy or introvert. But that’s when these specific details come in that it gives yourself away. That’s why I wondered about Kate too.

Also no one said it was all about that but that’s definitely something that an Asperger will notice. I’m glad non autistic did too. If a few anons watch the show and identify or make the connection, it’s fine.

Again, the way Kate acted on certain occasions doesn't mean she's autistic just because it's something some on the spectrum would relate to. And yes, that is something introverts in general absolutely would relate to as well. I am one and I do. And again, in real life, people would rarely guess you're autistic because depending on the autism, that's something only a professional could properly diagnose. Which is why we've had what... two professionals here telling you otherwise. You identifying with Kate for whatever reason doesn't make her on the spectrum or you any less autistic. Literally no one said it's not fine to make a connection. There's a difference between connecting and actually making an affirmation.

You're going to tell me... someone who is autistic how it works? Women on the spectrum are less easy to spot than men because autism in women manisfest differently and women "fit" more easily -that's a perpective- than men, hence why many many women who are austistic aren't guessed as Asperger by their peers or friends, contrary to boys and men. That was simply the point I was trying to make because I live it every day, you know as an asperger. and that many people confuse my weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness or being introvert.

Also, I don't see what's wrong with saying Kate could be austistic and why you're acting all strange as if a character needs a certified diagnosis with a fictional professional to prove anything, we're mainly talking about headcanon here. If Asperger or non asperger wonder about Kate being Aspeger, live with it.

Given that I am a psychiatrist and without people like me, you wouldn't have a diagnosis, yes, I am. Your "weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness" isn't what makes you or anyone austistic, or else there would be very few non-autistic people out there. That is now how any of this works or how it is perceived, much less diagnosed, therefore the implications that a fictional character who presents those characteristics could be autistic is a fallacy. It's that simple.

Again, one said there is anything wrong with it, only that kids making threads on Twitter about a disorder as if they have any knowledge of what they are talking about is factually wrong and actually harmful. This isn't about headcanons. You can headcanon her as a PB&J sandwich if it makes you feel any better, it literally makes no difference.

For a psychiatrist, it seems you have a few problem of reading comprehension. I have never say what makes me autistic is my weirdness, but that my autism IRL, in regard to the way I'm perceived by others which don't know I'm austistic, is confused/mixed up with shyness hence why I'm lowkey able to be not perceived as autistic because autistic women are more able to perform social role, blend it painfully and being seen as introvert. I think what I'm saying is very clear.

The implications for a character like Kate is that I identify myself with her awkardness that is eluded in a few details like how she handled her previous relationship and the way she is literal and have trouble understanding others, sometimes. And, yes, I'm sorry but those characteristics are also part of being autistic, and since we only have access to Kate's character in a superficial way and do not know the in and out of her entire mental map, it's perfectly alright to recognize part of yourself as an autistic in her character and match them with your autism. It works because I did, whether you like or not, whether you want to stamp your approval, because characters are fleshed out to be identified with, not abstract. She fits right there with autistic people in the way she acts in certains scenes and I'm very glad a few saw it, I was way too afraid to talk about it here, mainly because of judgemental know it all here who equates a view on one's character based on personal experience with "kids on Twitter or PB&J sandwich". What I'm saying is no way harmful, what is harmful is people like you coming here and telling me, as an autistic person I can't headcanon Kate as possibly autistic or at least wonder about it -like it's too much- and question the way the writers characterized her in a few scenes. Live and let people live because you won't change my mind, and there is nothing factually wrong here since nothing, nada, niente, has been stated about her character so far so you can't refute as factually wrong something that hasn't been refuted on screen.

Last but not least, if any writers are reading this thread -I know a few curious do- please continue to write Kate as ambigously socially awkward the way you did in season one without having to say anything, so introverts and autistics can let their imagination let loose, especially if it frutastes some anons here.

[Violyn]

I don't quite understand why Lucy tried to walk away,. Embarrased maybe? She was waiting for her all sad in the party,right?

I don’t think she was exactly walking away - ultimately she was there waiting for Kate - it was like she was taking in what was happening, it was a surprise to her and she is taking all in.
And she goes to Kate to understand if what she thinks that is really is what she thinks it is, hence asking her.

[Guest]

I don't quite understand why Lucy tried to walk away,. Embarrased maybe? She was waiting for her all sad in the party,right?

Please, let it sink in the actual shock it must have been at first for Lucy to realize the one she loves was willing to SING in front of everyone to get her back. I think she needed a few seconds to calm herself lmfao.

[Guest]

There is a difference between being an introvert and the way Kate acted on certain occasions. It’s not because she’s introvert that she is sometimes too literal or that she ghosted her ex because she thought it will work and that’s how you break up with someone lol. This weirdness is something that hits home for me. That’s doesn’t mean she’s acting autistic on every scene tho. Mind you, in real life, people rarely guess I’m austitic because it’s socially more acceptable for women to be shy or introvert. But that’s when these specific details come in that it gives yourself away. That’s why I wondered about Kate too.

Also no one said it was all about that but that’s definitely something that an Asperger will notice. I’m glad non autistic did too. If a few anons watch the show and identify or make the connection, it’s fine.

Again, the way Kate acted on certain occasions doesn't mean she's autistic just because it's something some on the spectrum would relate to. And yes, that is something introverts in general absolutely would relate to as well. I am one and I do. And again, in real life, people would rarely guess you're autistic because depending on the autism, that's something only a professional could properly diagnose. Which is why we've had what... two professionals here telling you otherwise. You identifying with Kate for whatever reason doesn't make her on the spectrum or you any less autistic. Literally no one said it's not fine to make a connection. There's a difference between connecting and actually making an affirmation.

You're going to tell me... someone who is autistic how it works? Women on the spectrum are less easy to spot than men because autism in women manisfest differently and women "fit" more easily -that's a perpective- than men, hence why many many women who are austistic aren't guessed as Asperger by their peers or friends, contrary to boys and men. That was simply the point I was trying to make because I live it every day, you know as an asperger. and that many people confuse my weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness or being introvert.

Also, I don't see what's wrong with saying Kate could be austistic and why you're acting all strange as if a character needs a certified diagnosis with a fictional professional to prove anything, we're mainly talking about headcanon here. If Asperger or non asperger wonder about Kate being Aspeger, live with it.

Given that I am a psychiatrist and without people like me, you wouldn't have a diagnosis, yes, I am. Your "weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness" isn't what makes you or anyone austistic, or else there would be very few non-autistic people out there. That is now how any of this works or how it is perceived, much less diagnosed, therefore the implications that a fictional character who presents those characteristics could be autistic is a fallacy. It's that simple.

Again, one said there is anything wrong with it, only that kids making threads on Twitter about a disorder as if they have any knowledge of what they are talking about is factually wrong and actually harmful. This isn't about headcanons. You can headcanon her as a PB&J sandwich if it makes you feel any better, it literally makes no difference.

For a psychiatrist, it seems you have a few problem of reading comprehension.

What I'm saying is no way harmful, what is harmful is people like you coming here and telling me, as an autistic person I can't headcanon Kate as possibly autistic or at least wonder about it -like it's too much- and question the way the writers characterized her in a few scenes. Live and let people live because you won't change my mind, and there is nothing factually wrong here since nothing, nada, niente, has been stated about her character so far so you can't refute as factually wrong something that hasn't been refuted on screen.

I dont know, kid, the only person here who seems to have any reading comprehension is you, which makes sense, given you are autistic because what I've been seeing for the past 2 pages is the other person especifically saying they don't have an issue with anyone's headcanons (regardless of what you have been telling youself) but the way "Twitter kids" tend to put labels and diagnosis on people to make themselves feel better which is indeed annoying as fuck. I guess it must have hit a nerve because you sure seem to be wasting a lot of time repeating yourself on something you misinterpreted to begin with.
And since nothing has been stated about her character so far that they can't refute as factually wrong, then it's just as true you can't say she's on the spectrum to begin with

[Guest]

All this talk about autism made me wonder if I am on the spectrum because I relate to some of Kate's characteristics. So I took a bunch of online tests and guess what

Anyway, I love the character and all her traits and I love how Lucy complements her almost beat for beat.

I cannot wait for season 2 and don't know what to do during this hiatus. None of the fanfics are enough for me. I want the real thing, the show. I guess this is the downside to having a show deliver you the goods, you don't really want some alt-retelling. You want the show version.

[Guest]

I don't quite understand why Lucy tried to walk away,. Embarrased maybe? She was waiting for her all sad in the party,right?

Embarrassment/not wanting to deal with her own feelings? I mean, that's Lucy in a nutshell. She never let kate speak cause she knew she'd cave right in so her first reaction to Kate serenading her was instant panic

All this talk about autism made me wonder if I am on the spectrum because I relate to some of Kate's characteristics

I must be autistic too since relating to her means you're on the spectrum.

[Guest]

Again, the way Kate acted on certain occasions doesn't mean she's autistic just because it's something some on the spectrum would relate to. And yes, that is something introverts in general absolutely would relate to as well. I am one and I do. And again, in real life, people would rarely guess you're autistic because depending on the autism, that's something only a professional could properly diagnose. Which is why we've had what... two professionals here telling you otherwise. You identifying with Kate for whatever reason doesn't make her on the spectrum or you any less autistic. Literally no one said it's not fine to make a connection. There's a difference between connecting and actually making an affirmation.

You're going to tell me... someone who is autistic how it works? Women on the spectrum are less easy to spot than men because autism in women manisfest differently and women "fit" more easily -that's a perpective- than men, hence why many many women who are austistic aren't guessed as Asperger by their peers or friends, contrary to boys and men. That was simply the point I was trying to make because I live it every day, you know as an asperger. and that many people confuse my weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness or being introvert.

Also, I don't see what's wrong with saying Kate could be austistic and why you're acting all strange as if a character needs a certified diagnosis with a fictional professional to prove anything, we're mainly talking about headcanon here. If Asperger or non asperger wonder about Kate being Aspeger, live with it.

Given that I am a psychiatrist and without people like me, you wouldn't have a diagnosis, yes, I am. Your "weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness" isn't what makes you or anyone austistic, or else there would be very few non-autistic people out there. That is now how any of this works or how it is perceived, much less diagnosed, therefore the implications that a fictional character who presents those characteristics could be autistic is a fallacy. It's that simple.

Again, one said there is anything wrong with it, only that kids making threads on Twitter about a disorder as if they have any knowledge of what they are talking about is factually wrong and actually harmful. This isn't about headcanons. You can headcanon her as a PB&J sandwich if it makes you feel any better, it literally makes no difference.

For a psychiatrist, it seems you have a few problem of reading comprehension.

What I'm saying is no way harmful, what is harmful is people like you coming here and telling me, as an autistic person I can't headcanon Kate as possibly autistic or at least wonder about it -like it's too much- and question the way the writers characterized her in a few scenes. Live and let people live because you won't change my mind, and there is nothing factually wrong here since nothing, nada, niente, has been stated about her character so far so you can't refute as factually wrong something that hasn't been refuted on screen.

I dont know, kid, the only person here who seems to have any reading comprehension is you, which makes sense, given you are autistic because what I've been seeing for the past 2 pages is the other person especifically saying they don't have an issue with anyone's headcanons (regardless of what you have been telling youself) but the way "Twitter kids" tend to put labels and diagnosis on people to make themselves feel better which is indeed annoying as fuck. I guess it must have hit a nerve because you sure seem to be wasting a lot of time repeating yourself on something you misinterpreted to begin with.
And since nothing has been stated about her character so far that they can't refute as factually wrong, then it's just as true you can't say she's on the spectrum to begin with

DA For being a psychiatrist or any medical professional for that matter, you're fucking rude, condescending and highly unprofessional. It's time to go back to school to learn how to treat people and I hope to God you never actually treat patients because they will be at a great disservice with your advice. It's fine to disagree with people, you can also be respectful and you haven't been at all on this page. All you've done is put anon down. With all of the mental health issues we have in this world right now, I sincerely hope you're not let anywhere near anyone's issues.

[Guest]

You're going to tell me... someone who is autistic how it works? Women on the spectrum are less easy to spot than men because autism in women manisfest differently and women "fit" more easily -that's a perpective- than men, hence why many many women who are austistic aren't guessed as Asperger by their peers or friends, contrary to boys and men. That was simply the point I was trying to make because I live it every day, you know as an asperger. and that many people confuse my weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness or being introvert.

Also, I don't see what's wrong with saying Kate could be austistic and why you're acting all strange as if a character needs a certified diagnosis with a fictional professional to prove anything, we're mainly talking about headcanon here. If Asperger or non asperger wonder about Kate being Aspeger, live with it.

Given that I am a psychiatrist and without people like me, you wouldn't have a diagnosis, yes, I am. Your "weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness" isn't what makes you or anyone austistic, or else there would be very few non-autistic people out there. That is now how any of this works or how it is perceived, much less diagnosed, therefore the implications that a fictional character who presents those characteristics could be autistic is a fallacy. It's that simple.

Again, one said there is anything wrong with it, only that kids making threads on Twitter about a disorder as if they have any knowledge of what they are talking about is factually wrong and actually harmful. This isn't about headcanons. You can headcanon her as a PB&J sandwich if it makes you feel any better, it literally makes no difference.

For a psychiatrist, it seems you have a few problem of reading comprehension.

What I'm saying is no way harmful, what is harmful is people like you coming here and telling me, as an autistic person I can't headcanon Kate as possibly autistic or at least wonder about it -like it's too much- and question the way the writers characterized her in a few scenes. Live and let people live because you won't change my mind, and there is nothing factually wrong here since nothing, nada, niente, has been stated about her character so far so you can't refute as factually wrong something that hasn't been refuted on screen.

I dont know, kid, the only person here who seems to have any reading comprehension is you, which makes sense, given you are autistic because what I've been seeing for the past 2 pages is the other person especifically saying they don't have an issue with anyone's headcanons (regardless of what you have been telling youself) but the way "Twitter kids" tend to put labels and diagnosis on people to make themselves feel better which is indeed annoying as fuck. I guess it must have hit a nerve because you sure seem to be wasting a lot of time repeating yourself on something you misinterpreted to begin with.
And since nothing has been stated about her character so far that they can't refute as factually wrong, then it's just as true you can't say she's on the spectrum to begin with

DA For being a psychiatrist or any medical professional for that matter, you're fucking rude, condescending and highly unprofessional. It's time to go back to school to learn how to treat people and I hope to God you never actually treat patients because they will be at a great disservice with your advice. It's fine to disagree with people, you can also be respectful and you haven't been at all on this page. All you've done is put anon down. With all of the mental health issues we have in this world right now, I sincerely hope you're not let anywhere near anyone's issues.

Sorry but I am the person you responded to and I am not the pyschiatrist Guess you need reading comprehension lessons as well.

[Guest]

Again, the way Kate acted on certain occasions doesn't mean she's autistic just because it's something some on the spectrum would relate to. And yes, that is something introverts in general absolutely would relate to as well. I am one and I do. And again, in real life, people would rarely guess you're autistic because depending on the autism, that's something only a professional could properly diagnose. Which is why we've had what... two professionals here telling you otherwise. You identifying with Kate for whatever reason doesn't make her on the spectrum or you any less autistic. Literally no one said it's not fine to make a connection. There's a difference between connecting and actually making an affirmation.

You're going to tell me... someone who is autistic how it works? Women on the spectrum are less easy to spot than men because autism in women manisfest differently and women "fit" more easily -that's a perpective- than men, hence why many many women who are austistic aren't guessed as Asperger by their peers or friends, contrary to boys and men. That was simply the point I was trying to make because I live it every day, you know as an asperger. and that many people confuse my weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness or being introvert.

Also, I don't see what's wrong with saying Kate could be austistic and why you're acting all strange as if a character needs a certified diagnosis with a fictional professional to prove anything, we're mainly talking about headcanon here. If Asperger or non asperger wonder about Kate being Aspeger, live with it.

Given that I am a psychiatrist and without people like me, you wouldn't have a diagnosis, yes, I am. Your "weirdness, or awkwardness as shyness" isn't what makes you or anyone austistic, or else there would be very few non-autistic people out there. That is now how any of this works or how it is perceived, much less diagnosed, therefore the implications that a fictional character who presents those characteristics could be autistic is a fallacy. It's that simple.

Again, one said there is anything wrong with it, only that kids making threads on Twitter about a disorder as if they have any knowledge of what they are talking about is factually wrong and actually harmful. This isn't about headcanons. You can headcanon her as a PB&J sandwich if it makes you feel any better, it literally makes no difference.

For a psychiatrist, it seems you have a few problem of reading comprehension.

What I'm saying is no way harmful, what is harmful is people like you coming here and telling me, as an autistic person I can't headcanon Kate as possibly autistic or at least wonder about it -like it's too much- and question the way the writers characterized her in a few scenes. Live and let people live because you won't change my mind, and there is nothing factually wrong here since nothing, nada, niente, has been stated about her character so far so you can't refute as factually wrong something that hasn't been refuted on screen.

I dont know, kid, the only person here who seems to have any reading comprehension is you, which makes sense, given you are autistic because what I've been seeing for the past 2 pages is the other person especifically saying they don't have an issue with anyone's headcanons (regardless of what you have been telling youself) but the way "Twitter kids" tend to put labels and diagnosis on people to make themselves feel better which is indeed annoying as fuck. I guess it must have hit a nerve because you sure seem to be wasting a lot of time repeating yourself on something you misinterpreted to begin with.
And since nothing has been stated about her character so far that they can't refute as factually wrong, then it's just as true you can't say she's on the spectrum to begin with

See, despite all the frustration and judgment you want to bring out in this thread, I will urge you to stop believing anyone who write here must be a teenager under 12, or that twitter kids are plotting in unison to make your life annoying, it seems you're able to do that all by yourself.

I'm honestly speechless here with the defensivness and the quick remark: " How dare you to say Kate might be autistic -Might? How? Dare? You?" lol. Wow, you do you L chat. Topic closed for me.

Have a good day thread, the pleasant one. ^^

[Guest]

All this talk about autism made me wonder if I am on the spectrum because I relate to some of Kate's characteristics. So I took a bunch of online tests and guess what

Anyway, I love the character and all her traits and I love how Lucy complements her almost beat for beat.

I cannot wait for season 2 and don't know what to do during this hiatus. None of the fanfics are enough for me. I want the real thing, the show. I guess this is the downside to having a show deliver you the goods, you don't really want some alt-retelling. You want the show version.

That's a good point, I hadn't thought about that. I'm so used to it being the other way around. I'll still be reading all the fanfic I can find, but it won't be the same.

[Guest]

All this talk about autism made me wonder if I am on the spectrum because I relate to some of Kate's characteristics. So I took a bunch of online tests and guess what

Anyway, I love the character and all her traits and I love how Lucy complements her almost beat for beat.

I cannot wait for season 2 and don't know what to do during this hiatus. None of the fanfics are enough for me. I want the real thing, the show. I guess this is the downside to having a show deliver you the goods, you don't really want some alt-retelling. You want the show version.

Introverts and autistic can relate, but it seems too much to comprehend to some anons here. The two overlap, since autistics are always introverts, but shh, it's twitter kids, and introverts and autistics must be divised so our psychiatric queen here can reign over fictionnal twitter kids.

[Guest]

All this talk about autism made me wonder if I am on the spectrum because I relate to some of Kate's characteristics. So I took a bunch of online tests and guess what

Anyway, I love the character and all her traits and I love how Lucy complements her almost beat for beat.

I cannot wait for season 2 and don't know what to do during this hiatus. None of the fanfics are enough for me. I want the real thing, the show. I guess this is the downside to having a show deliver you the goods, you don't really want some alt-retelling. You want the show version.

That's a good point, I hadn't thought about that. I'm so used to it being the other way around. I'll still be reading all the fanfic I can find, but it won't be the same.

Are the fics of this show any good? I dont read fics cause I only ship canon couples and canon is usually enough for me. Then again, I'm note sure I'd need to read fics for this show either since I'm super pleased so far. Unless it's smut

[Guest]

All this talk about autism made me wonder if I am on the spectrum because I relate to some of Kate's characteristics. So I took a bunch of online tests and guess what

Anyway, I love the character and all her traits and I love how Lucy complements her almost beat for beat.

I cannot wait for season 2 and don't know what to do during this hiatus. None of the fanfics are enough for me. I want the real thing, the show. I guess this is the downside to having a show deliver you the goods, you don't really want some alt-retelling. You want the show version.

That's a good point, I hadn't thought about that. I'm so used to it being the other way around. I'll still be reading all the fanfic I can find, but it won't be the same.

Are the fics of this show any good? I dont read fics cause I only ship canon couples and canon is usually enough for me. Then again, I'm note sure I'd need to read fics for this show either since I'm super pleased so far. Unless it's smut

Some are good. I usually filter by bookmarks to get the good ones but I've so far read 3 that I thought are top shelf. I've read a few but lost interest after a few paragraphs but that's only coz I'm picky and can afford to be picky since people write a lot for this ship.

I observed that when the canon material is good, there generally isn't a lot of fanfic for it. Not that the canon material we have here is in any way lacking but I think the weird airing schedule has contributed to the volume of fanfics we have. So IMO the frequent hiatus has led to people writing to pass away the time I guess. Which leads me to believe we bound for a bunch of new fanfics until September or whenever the show comes back.

[Guest]

I don't quite understand why Lucy tried to walk away,. Embarrased maybe? She was waiting for her all sad in the party,right?

Embarrassment/not wanting to deal with her own feelings? I mean, that's Lucy in a nutshell. She never let kate speak cause she knew she'd cave right in so her first reaction to Kate serenading her was instant panic

All this talk about autism made me wonder if I am on the spectrum because I relate to some of Kate's characteristics

I must be autistic too since relating to her means you're on the spectrum.

It wasnt only with Kate that she avoided talking about feelings, it was also with Ernie. Lucy intentionally avoided having to say she loved Kate.
Besides the origin story, Lucy always shot down Ernie when the question was about what she felt. She couldnt admit it out loud to anyone because she was trying to fight it.
She is out there waiting for Kate all night long and she still says “i dont know what i want”. She could not admit it, even though she knew exactly what she felt.

[Guest]

All this talk about autism made me wonder if I am on the spectrum because I relate to some of Kate's characteristics. So I took a bunch of online tests and guess what

Anyway, I love the character and all her traits and I love how Lucy complements her almost beat for beat.

I cannot wait for season 2 and don't know what to do during this hiatus. None of the fanfics are enough for me. I want the real thing, the show. I guess this is the downside to having a show deliver you the goods, you don't really want some alt-retelling. You want the show version.

That's a good point, I hadn't thought about that. I'm so used to it being the other way around. I'll still be reading all the fanfic I can find, but it won't be the same.

Are the fics of this show any good? I dont read fics cause I only ship canon couples and canon is usually enough for me. Then again, I'm note sure I'd need to read fics for this show either since I'm super pleased so far. Unless it's smut

Some are good. I usually filter by bookmarks to get the good ones but I've so far read 3 that I thought are top shelf. I've read a few but lost interest after a few paragraphs but that's only coz I'm picky and can afford to be picky since people write a lot for this ship.

I observed that when the canon material is good, there generally isn't a lot of fanfic for it. Not that the canon material we have here is in any way lacking but I think the weird airing schedule has contributed to the volume of fanfics we have. So IMO the frequent hiatus has led to people writing to pass away the time I guess. Which leads me to believe we bound for a bunch of new fanfics until September or whenever the show comes back.

I agree. I actually think the type of writing in itself is good, but the stories arent as graby cause I dont fill the need to read some parts?
I dont know what other fandoms you guys follow, recently i have been trying to read Gini (Gen Q) and Marina (S29) fics and the writing is atrocious. In that regard, Kacy writers are more quality.
But other than the time before they met and ep 1, i dont feel the need to fill in blanks.

[Guest]

I don’t think we can really say that Kate is an introvert. She clearly had no problem coming to Hawaii, going out by herself, and then spending an entire weekend with someone she just met. We know that she wanted to keep her work and personal life separate which could be because she does not want to appear compromised not because she is an introvert. She told Lucy how lucky she was that she had coworkers that socialized and went out for beers together and that she wishes she had that type of relationship. I don’t think we can really say that she is or isn’t an introvert. I hope we get more backstory for her next season to really see what makes her tick.
I’m similar to Kate in that I have a difficult time expressing myself and I actively choose not to share my personal life with my coworkers. I prefer to keep the two separate but I am far from an introvert. My difficulty with expressing myself has more to do with my upbringing than my personality.
Just my two cents.

[Guest]

Cute that Tori noticed this. So nice to see more and more Kacy art as the ship is becoming more popular

[Guest]

All this talk about autism made me wonder if I am on the spectrum because I relate to some of Kate's characteristics. So I took a bunch of online tests and guess what

Anyway, I love the character and all her traits and I love how Lucy complements her almost beat for beat.

I cannot wait for season 2 and don't know what to do during this hiatus. None of the fanfics are enough for me. I want the real thing, the show. I guess this is the downside to having a show deliver you the goods, you don't really want some alt-retelling. You want the show version.

That's a good point, I hadn't thought about that. I'm so used to it being the other way around. I'll still be reading all the fanfic I can find, but it won't be the same.

Are the fics of this show any good? I dont read fics cause I only ship canon couples and canon is usually enough for me. Then again, I'm note sure I'd need to read fics for this show either since I'm super pleased so far. Unless it's smut

Some are good. I usually filter by bookmarks to get the good ones but I've so far read 3 that I thought are top shelf. I've read a few but lost interest after a few paragraphs but that's only coz I'm picky and can afford to be picky since people write a lot for this ship.

I observed that when the canon material is good, there generally isn't a lot of fanfic for it. Not that the canon material we have here is in any way lacking but I think the weird airing schedule has contributed to the volume of fanfics we have. So IMO the frequent hiatus has led to people writing to pass away the time I guess. Which leads me to believe we bound for a bunch of new fanfics until September or whenever the show comes back.

I agree. I actually think the type of writing in itself is good, but the stories arent as graby cause I dont fill the need to read some parts?
I dont know what other fandoms you guys follow, recently i have been trying to read Gini (Gen Q) and Marina (S29) fics and the writing is atrocious. In that regard, Kacy writers are more quality.
But other than the time before they met and ep 1, i dont feel the need to fill in blanks.

If you guys had to recommend ONE Kacy fic for someone who appreciates good writing and has never read a Kacy fic, which ones would you recommend?

[Guest]

I have a question. Do you think people from the balcony heard their conversation? I mean she was singing louder when they started listening and they didn't hear the beginning of the song (I think).

[Guest]

I have a question. Do you think people from the balcony heard their conversation? I mean she was singing louder when they started listening and they didn't hear the beginning of the song (I think).

I thought about it before and I dont think they did.
Just like they didnt hear the first part of the song.
The i love you was a whisper. Maybe not even enrie

[Guest]

[Guest]

That's a good point, I hadn't thought about that. I'm so used to it being the other way around. I'll still be reading all the fanfic I can find, but it won't be the same.

Are the fics of this show any good? I dont read fics cause I only ship canon couples and canon is usually enough for me. Then again, I'm note sure I'd need to read fics for this show either since I'm super pleased so far. Unless it's smut

Some are good. I usually filter by bookmarks to get the good ones but I've so far read 3 that I thought are top shelf. I've read a few but lost interest after a few paragraphs but that's only coz I'm picky and can afford to be picky since people write a lot for this ship.

I observed that when the canon material is good, there generally isn't a lot of fanfic for it. Not that the canon material we have here is in any way lacking but I think the weird airing schedule has contributed to the volume of fanfics we have. So IMO the frequent hiatus has led to people writing to pass away the time I guess. Which leads me to believe we bound for a bunch of new fanfics until September or whenever the show comes back.

I agree. I actually think the type of writing in itself is good, but the stories arent as graby cause I dont fill the need to read some parts?
I dont know what other fandoms you guys follow, recently i have been trying to read Gini (Gen Q) and Marina (S29) fics and the writing is atrocious. In that regard, Kacy writers are more quality.
But other than the time before they met and ep 1, i dont feel the need to fill in blanks.

If you guys had to recommend ONE Kacy fic for someone who appreciates good writing and has never read a Kacy fic, which ones would you recommend?

This is one of them https://archiveofourown.org/works/38499 ... s/96221446

[Guest]

Imagine if in season two we'll get flashbacks to their first meeting at the bar

[Wayhaughtshipper18p]

Are the fics of this show any good? I dont read fics cause I only ship canon couples and canon is usually enough for me. Then again, I'm note sure I'd need to read fics for this show either since I'm super pleased so far. Unless it's smut

Some are good. I usually filter by bookmarks to get the good ones but I've so far read 3 that I thought are top shelf. I've read a few but lost interest after a few paragraphs but that's only coz I'm picky and can afford to be picky since people write a lot for this ship.

I observed that when the canon material is good, there generally isn't a lot of fanfic for it. Not that the canon material we have here is in any way lacking but I think the weird airing schedule has contributed to the volume of fanfics we have. So IMO the frequent hiatus has led to people writing to pass away the time I guess. Which leads me to believe we bound for a bunch of new fanfics until September or whenever the show comes back.

I agree. I actually think the type of writing in itself is good, but the stories arent as graby cause I dont fill the need to read some parts?
I dont know what other fandoms you guys follow, recently i have been trying to read Gini (Gen Q) and Marina (S29) fics and the writing is atrocious. In that regard, Kacy writers are more quality.
But other than the time before they met and ep 1, i dont feel the need to fill in blanks.

If you guys had to recommend ONE Kacy fic for someone who appreciates good writing and has never read a Kacy fic, which ones would you recommend?

This is one of them https://archiveofourown.org/works/38499 ... s/96221446

I enjoyed that one. I would go with the first Kacy fanfic I read. The writer is from Australia and actually has 3 YA w/w books published. On Twitter she is @emilyobwrites and on AO3 her name is sakhalinsk. She has 3 stories. The one I like best is The First Time.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/35564431

[Guest]

Are the fics of this show any good? I dont read fics cause I only ship canon couples and canon is usually enough for me. Then again, I'm note sure I'd need to read fics for this show either since I'm super pleased so far. Unless it's smut

Some are good. I usually filter by bookmarks to get the good ones but I've so far read 3 that I thought are top shelf. I've read a few but lost interest after a few paragraphs but that's only coz I'm picky and can afford to be picky since people write a lot for this ship.

I observed that when the canon material is good, there generally isn't a lot of fanfic for it. Not that the canon material we have here is in any way lacking but I think the weird airing schedule has contributed to the volume of fanfics we have. So IMO the frequent hiatus has led to people writing to pass away the time I guess. Which leads me to believe we bound for a bunch of new fanfics until September or whenever the show comes back.

I agree. I actually think the type of writing in itself is good, but the stories arent as graby cause I dont fill the need to read some parts?
I dont know what other fandoms you guys follow, recently i have been trying to read Gini (Gen Q) and Marina (S29) fics and the writing is atrocious. In that regard, Kacy writers are more quality.
But other than the time before they met and ep 1, i dont feel the need to fill in blanks.

If you guys had to recommend ONE Kacy fic for someone who appreciates good writing and has never read a Kacy fic, which ones would you recommend?

This is one of them https://archiveofourown.org/works/38499 ... s/96221446

DA - I haven't read that one. But here's my rec:

https://archiveofourown.org/works/38902086 - Better (One-shot), about how they got back together
https://archiveofourown.org/works/38914425 - Hale Kaiāulu (One-shot), about their first meeting
https://archiveofourown.org/works/38853627 - All The Wrong Turns (One-shot), post 1.20https://archiveofourown.org/works/37293151 - we only stop so we can start over again (multi-chapter), the first fanfic I ever read for this ship and it's canon divergent but written well

If you like any of those fics, I would recommend reading the other works by the same authors. They all write well and their fics helped me through the wait between hiatuses.

[Guest]

She seems like such a lovely person

[Wayhaughtshipper18p]

She seems like such a lovely person

Well, she's Canadian, so her national DNA gave her a leg up on niceness. Obviously, I am saying this tongue in cheek, but it does seem somewhat true that Canadians are warm, friendly people. And she definitely looks to be that easy, too. The whole cast seem that way.

[Guest]

Next season, I definitely want a scene where Kate gets all flustered over Lucy looking hot in her undercover outfit. Lucy was hilarious during the surf scene and such a lesbian. So I want the same thing to happen to Kate, too. Lucy is hot. I loved her outfit during the poker scene and sad Kate didn't get to appreciate it 'coz of Cara. I can just imagine the jaw clench and Kate clearing her throat as she tries not to oggle.

[Guest]

She seems like such a lovely person

I do enjoy how invested the cast seems in their characters and the pairing. You can tell how much they enjoy what they do. It's refreshing.

[Guest]

I’m late to the party, just watched it!
I thought there would be a scene that explains how Kate knows Skylars name and occupation etc? Do we know how she knows?

Also I read somewhere in an article a few weeks ago that season 2 would probably be out in March of next year! I see a lot of people saying it will be out in September. Did anyone else read the same article as me?

What a final though!

March?
18 out of 19 seasons of NCIS started in September and 1season in November that is why everyone thinks that. March is a weird date for NCIS shows

I agree! That’s why I was so confused when I read it! I can’t wait till March! I’m crossing my fingers for September!!

[Guest]

I've rewatched this so many times... Kudos to Tori for all the emotion and desperation she manages to convey with her voice and expressions in those 15 seconds. This is why I didn't mind those 10+ episodes of angst after the breakup, because we got to see how miserable they were when separated and that made this reunion so much more heartwarming. No matter what happens from now on, I'm glad we got this complete story arc for them in the first season.

I agree, I was thinking that, if delivered the wrong way, those lines could have been so cheesy! “I can’t go another day without you” but it was so believable and heartfelt! Great work!

[Guest]

Their happiness when they finally kiss is just so palpable
I am embarassed by how many times i have seen that ending.
Lucy’s relief and just taking in Kate’s kiss