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Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 06 May 2023, 11:26

Meagan, Nicole and Javicia at Starfury :wub:
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by Guest » 10 Feb 2023, 05:19

Is anyone going to the Starfury con this year?

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 13 Nov 2022, 11:32

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Does anyone know what happened to make Javicia post the since deleted IG story about how she woke up to something unexpected and how "hurt people hurt people"? Was she getting hate for Batwoman?
Could be about anything?? I don't think she would get as much hate now that BW is over.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 11 Nov 2022, 00:46

Does anyone know what happened to make Javicia post the since deleted IG story about how she woke up to something unexpected and how "hurt people hurt people"? Was she getting hate for Batwoman?

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 23 Oct 2022, 08:43

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 30 Aug 2022, 05:06

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That online hate don’t ever matter because I’m real life javicia and Meagan are loved so glad they had a great turn out to their first time at clexacon
They're getting hated on for attending Clexacon? I'm confused? :hmmm:

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 30 Aug 2022, 04:41

That online hate don’t ever matter because I’m real life javicia and Meagan are loved so glad they had a great turn out to their first time at clexacon

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 28 Aug 2022, 16:48

ClexaCon today

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 19 Jul 2022, 20:28

We finally got it now we have both javicia and meagan attending

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 14 Jul 2022, 17:20


Finally now they need to get javicia

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 12 Jul 2022, 20:05

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They should've kept this scene in. why do all these cw shows/writers do this to the main couples by deleting all the good soft moments between the couples everyone was hoping we got a morning after scene but the cut it out :bigcry:
x2 they should have kept it for real because it makes so much more sense if they left this scene in plus they made it seem like Ryan pulled a Renee and just dipped and left Sophie dry but turns out we could have gotten this really cute scene with Ryan and Sophie the morning after.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 12 Jul 2022, 19:59

They should've kept this scene in. why do all these cw shows/writers do this to the main couples by deleting all the good soft moments between the couples everyone was hoping we got a morning after scene but the cut it out :bigcry:

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 12 Jul 2022, 19:19

Deleted scene i guess

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 04 Jul 2022, 21:41

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Thanks for posting. I'm tempted to go but I'm not sure that I want to drive the two hours there, then back home only for signatures. Are they on any panels?

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Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 17 Jun 2022, 12:00

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I have a question. If and that's a big IF a network decided to take pity and bring the show back for a season 4 do you guysnthink Meagan would come back especially since she called out the writers or do you think she would turn it down. I think if they found a happy medium between Sophie the gf and Soohienthe badass she would be happy
I think meagan would definitely come back if they got picked up but also it they give her character more to do. but at the end of the day I don't see any of the cw shows getting picked up. Meagan was signed on to be the love interest for batwoman basically her main role but I would have loved to see her be head of security or something to do with catwomen but unfortunately the writers didn't have many episodes to put everything in. This is one of the few times where I agree with what the writers did with ending of the season because 1. None of the cw shows knew if they were coming back for sure and they were told a head of time to give every show a decent ending just in case which legends failed to do and that's why many fans are upset with the LOT writers. I could tell the writers were about to dig deeper into Sophie's story but they just didn't have enough time and they couldn't just go ahead and start something they would never get to finish again. I now meagan wanted to try the catwomen stuff but they just couldn't fit so many things into such a short season maybe of it was a full season but not this time. There was a lot of storylines they had to kinda rush through because of the short season. I've delt with the cancelation and can't wait to see meagan and Javicia's future projects and I also hope we get to see them at clexacon I know meagan told fans to keep spamming them to invite her and javicia so fingers crossed.
Yeah her main role was the love interest right from season 1. And I agree I think if they had a longer season for season 3 or got renewed we would have gotten a bit more Sophie. But as you said if they tried to dig deeper into Sophie they may have not been able to get wildmoore to the stage of being together officially and happy as thats what they wanted for season 3 regardless. Plus deal with Ryan's family so they had to choose Ryan and Wildmoore or probably Ryan and sophie with each of them having a story. But to make the season flow they had to gonthe way they did or your right I think the season would have ended eith a bigger cliffhanger and it would probably be are wildmoore together or not

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 17 Jun 2022, 03:22

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16 Jun 2022, 11:43
I have a question. If and that's a big IF a network decided to take pity and bring the show back for a season 4 do you guysnthink Meagan would come back especially since she called out the writers or do you think she would turn it down. I think if they found a happy medium between Sophie the gf and Soohienthe badass she would be happy
I think meagan would definitely come back if they got picked up but also it they give her character more to do. but at the end of the day I don't see any of the cw shows getting picked up. Meagan was signed on to be the love interest for batwoman basically her main role but I would have loved to see her be head of security or something to do with catwomen but unfortunately the writers didn't have many episodes to put everything in. This is one of the few times where I agree with what the writers did with ending of the season because 1. None of the cw shows knew if they were coming back for sure and they were told a head of time to give every show a decent ending just in case which legends failed to do and that's why many fans are upset with the LOT writers. I could tell the writers were about to dig deeper into Sophie's story but they just didn't have enough time and they couldn't just go ahead and start something they would never get to finish again. I now meagan wanted to try the catwomen stuff but they just couldn't fit so many things into such a short season maybe of it was a full season but not this time. There was a lot of storylines they had to kinda rush through because of the short season. I've delt with the cancelation and can't wait to see meagan and Javicia's future projects and I also hope we get to see them at clexacon I know meagan told fans to keep spamming them to invite her and javicia so fingers crossed.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 18:44

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16 Jun 2022, 11:43
I have a question. If and that's a big IF a network decided to take pity and bring the show back for a season 4 do you guys think Meagan would come back especially since she called out the writers or do you think she would turn it down. I think if they found a happy medium between Sophie the gf and Soohienthe badass she would be happy

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 11:43

I have a question. If and that's a big IF a network decided to take pity and bring the show back for a season 4 do you guysnthink Meagan would come back especially since she called out the writers or do you think she would turn it down. I think if they found a happy medium between Sophie the gf and Soohienthe badass she would be happy

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 07:39

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BW fans treated Sophie like shit from the get go so i understand Meagan's frustration. You have a real problem if you're more sympathetic to Alice and think she's the best (she's not).
No one was talking about Alice, but people have a right to like whoever they want. It's all subjective. I was referring to Meagan's frustrations about not being made head of The Crows, being sidelined as the love interest and her complaints about Ruby, as described by a fan, but yes, fans have treated every character badly in one way or another. The frustrating thing about this thread is you can comment endlessly about disliking certain actors or characters, but if you praise or express affinity for certain others, it's a problem. Nobody right now was criticising or attacking Meagan or anyone else.
No, that's just it....the fans have not treated every character badly. Alice was the fan favourite and i don't recall Julia getting hate any either.

The reason you cannot express dislike for certain characters is partly because of racism. And this isn't just a BW problem sadly. But that is the reason why some of us get so defensive about it.
This discussion is going into a thousand tangents and I'm not interested in going back and forth. What I was originally saying was Meagan expressed frustration with the writers (this is true, she's been venting a lot since the cancellation and did so as recently as today) and that that was understandable. I was sympathizing with her. It wasn't a criticism or an attack. That's all I have left to say.
You're not interested in doing a back and forth on a discussion forum...ok lol :eyeroll:
It helps when people can comprehend what you're saying without twisting your words and making it about something else entirely. I didn't bring up fans, I didn't bring up Alice, I didn't say "why can't I dislike certain characters?" I said the opposite, that you can't express that you like certain characters, since someone was chastising me for supposedly thinking Alice is best, because you're not allowed to like Alice or think she's the best, even though I didn't say a damn thing about her OR ANYONE. All I did was express some sympathy now you want to rope me into an endless back and forth.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 06:46

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Lol no she didn't. If you're referring to her being led to believe she was cast, then them taking it back, then a little venting is understandable. If anything, Meagan's expressed the most upset with the writers, which is understandable too.
BW fans treated Sophie like shit from the get go so i understand Meagan's frustration. You have a real problem if you're more sympathetic to Alice and think she's the best (she's not).
No one was talking about Alice, but people have a right to like whoever they want. It's all subjective. I was referring to Meagan's frustrations about not being made head of The Crows, being sidelined as the love interest and her complaints about Ruby, as described by a fan, but yes, fans have treated every character badly in one way or another. The frustrating thing about this thread is you can comment endlessly about disliking certain actors or characters, but if you praise or express affinity for certain others, it's a problem. Nobody right now was criticising or attacking Meagan or anyone else.
No, that's just it....the fans have not treated every character badly. Alice was the fan favourite and i don't recall Julia getting hate any either.

The reason you cannot express dislike for certain characters is partly because of racism. And this isn't just a BW problem sadly. But that is the reason why some of us get so defensive about it.
This discussion is going into a thousand tangents and I'm not interested in going back and forth. What I was originally saying was Meagan expressed frustration with the writers (this is true, she's been venting a lot since the cancellation and did so as recently as today) and that that was understandable. I was sympathizing with her. It wasn't a criticism or an attack. That's all I have left to say.
You're not interested in doing a back and forth on a discussion forum...ok lol :eyeroll:

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 06:39

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16 Jun 2022, 06:08
I can understand meagan being a little frustrated with the writers because they told her the arcs they wanted for Sophie like commissioner, catwoman as she said at a con she was originally supossed to pick up catwomans whip in the season 3 finale amd those stories sounded really good. Even the one she pitched about taking over the crows and making the change from the inside to making them good would have been a good story. I do understand that they wanted to get wildmoore together in season 3 and with 13 episodes some things would have had to have been left out so they went with the romance angle for them which is fine and I think even meagan understood that aswell, but I don't think she was happy with the ons they were making Sophie have but also sidelining her from the action except from the episodes where she was involved with the action as I think that's where Sophie also exceeded as you could tell she loved being part of the fighting etc.

I would have hoped if they had gotten more seasons there's nothing wrong with wanting to show wildmoore becoming a stronger unit but I do think they would have had to have given something else to do and not be the gf and sidelined like on season 3. Yeah we still saw some of her badassery in season 3 she was mainly sidelined and I think it would have made her leave if she was going to be sidelined and only there as the gf all the time.

I haven't voiced this out there but I do feel like Meagans IG stories yesterday about picking up her belongings from the lot and even thr comment with the mug about letting it go and how she had started building a life there then basically told its over I take that as the final confirmation that noone is clearly looking to pick the show up or if they have she has turned then down. But the people are telling me they would have to pick their stuff up anyone as they can't leave it there, and still Hope another network will pick it up
SA Sophie has been the main love interest from season 1 only difference is they switched it from Kate to Ryan which is what surprised her but at the same time she understood why they went that way. I think her main issue with it was thats all they really wanted her to be in season 3 so sidelined her alot apart from the occasional action she got as I said. They would have had to have found an equal balance for Sophie going forward and had her not just be there as Ryan's gf but also have her be involved with the action aswell and I think she would have been good with that.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 06:08

I can understand meagan being a little frustrated with the writers because they told her the arcs they wanted for Sophie like commissioner, catwoman as she said at a con she was originally supossed to pick up catwomans whip in the season 3 finale amd those stories sounded really good. Even the one she pitched about taking over the crows and making the change from the inside to making them good would have been a good story. I do understand that they wanted to get wildmoore together in season 3 and with 13 episodes some things would have had to have been left out so they went with the romance angle for them which is fine and I think even meagan understood that aswell, but I don't think she was happy with the ons they were making Sophie have but also sidelining her from the action except from the episodes where she was involved with the action as I think that's where Sophie also exceeded as you could tell she loved being part of the fighting etc.

I would have hoped if they had gotten more seasons there's nothing wrong with wanting to show wildmoore becoming a stronger unit but I do think they would have had to have given something else to do and not be the gf and sidelined like on season 3. Yeah we still saw some of her badassery in season 3 she was mainly sidelined and I think it would have made her leave if she was going to be sidelined and only there as the gf all the time.

I haven't voiced this out there but I do feel like Meagans IG stories yesterday about picking up her belongings from the lot and even thr comment with the mug about letting it go and how she had started building a life there then basically told its over I take that as the final confirmation that noone is clearly looking to pick the show up or if they have she has turned then down. But the people are telling me they would have to pick their stuff up anyone as they can't leave it there, and still Hope another network will pick it up

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 05:00

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Lol no she didn't. If you're referring to her being led to believe she was cast, then them taking it back, then a little venting is understandable. If anything, Meagan's expressed the most upset with the writers, which is understandable too.
BW fans treated Sophie like shit from the get go so i understand Meagan's frustration. You have a real problem if you're more sympathetic to Alice and think she's the best (she's not).
No one was talking about Alice, but people have a right to like whoever they want. It's all subjective. I was referring to Meagan's frustrations about not being made head of The Crows, being sidelined as the love interest and her complaints about Ruby, as described by a fan, but yes, fans have treated every character badly in one way or another. The frustrating thing about this thread is you can comment endlessly about disliking certain actors or characters, but if you praise or express affinity for certain others, it's a problem. Nobody right now was criticising or attacking Meagan or anyone else.
No, that's just it....the fans have not treated every character badly. Alice was the fan favourite and i don't recall Julia getting hate any either.

The reason you cannot express dislike for certain characters is partly because of racism. And this isn't just a BW problem sadly. But that is the reason why some of us get so defensive about it.
This discussion is going into a thousand tangents and I'm not interested in going back and forth. What I was originally saying was Meagan expressed frustration with the writers (this is true, she's been venting a lot since the cancellation and did so as recently as today) and that that was understandable. I was sympathizing with her. It wasn't a criticism or an attack. That's all I have left to say.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 04:20

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16 Jun 2022, 03:48
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Lol no she didn't. If you're referring to her being led to believe she was cast, then them taking it back, then a little venting is understandable. If anything, Meagan's expressed the most upset with the writers, which is understandable too.
BW fans treated Sophie like shit from the get go so i understand Meagan's frustration. You have a real problem if you're more sympathetic to Alice and think she's the best (she's not).
No one was talking about Alice, but people have a right to like whoever they want. It's all subjective. I was referring to Meagan's frustrations about not being made head of The Crows, being sidelined as the love interest and her complaints about Ruby, as described by a fan, but yes, fans have treated every character badly in one way or another. The frustrating thing about this thread is you can comment endlessly about disliking certain actors or characters, but if you praise or express affinity for certain others, it's a problem. Nobody right now was criticising or attacking Meagan or anyone else.
No, that's just it....the fans have not treated every character badly. Alice was the fan favourite and i don't recall Julia getting hate any either.

The reason you cannot express dislike for certain characters is partly because of racism. And this isn't just a BW problem sadly. But that is the reason why some of us get so defensive about it.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 04:02

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16 Jun 2022, 03:48
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Lol no she didn't. If you're referring to her being led to believe she was cast, then them taking it back, then a little venting is understandable. If anything, Meagan's expressed the most upset with the writers, which is understandable too.
BW fans treated Sophie like shit from the get go so i understand Meagan's frustration. You have a real problem if you're more sympathetic to Alice and think she's the best (she's not).
No one was talking about Alice, but people have a right to like whoever they want. It's all subjective. I was referring to Meagan's frustrations about not being made head of The Crows, being sidelined as the love interest and her complaints about Ruby, as described by a fan, but yes, fans have treated every character badly in one way or another. The frustrating thing about this thread is you can comment endlessly about disliking certain actors or characters, but if you praise or express affinity for certain others, it's a problem. Nobody right now was criticising or attacking Meagan or anyone else.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 03:48

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16 Jun 2022, 03:20
Lol no she didn't. If you're referring to her being led to believe she was cast, then them taking it back, then a little venting is understandable. If anything, Meagan's expressed the most upset with the writers, which is understandable too.
BW fans treated Sophie like shit from the get go so i understand Meagan's frustration. You have a real problem if you're more sympathetic to Alice and think she's the best (she's not).

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 03:20

Lol no she didn't. If you're referring to her being led to believe she was cast, then them taking it back, then a little venting is understandable. If anything, Meagan's expressed the most upset with the writers, which is understandable too.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 03:15

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Ashley Platz was horrible. They should’ve picked Wallis Day from Day One.
Yeah, should've been Wallis playing Kate, not Ruby. What a fumble by the network.
Lol Wallis talked shit about the writers and that was only after guest starring.

I mean it doesn't really matter now since the show would have been cancelled reguardless of the lead actress because they made Kate so unlikable :argh:

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 01:42

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Ashley Platz was horrible. They should’ve picked Wallis Day from Day One.
Yeah, should've been Wallis playing Kate, not Ruby. What a fumble by the network.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 01:29

Ashley Platz was horrible. They should’ve picked Wallis Day from Day One.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 16 Jun 2022, 01:27

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I have a question. Was the show pulling in more viewers when they had Kate as the lead and went down hill when they brought in Ryan or were they going down hill when they did have Kate.as the lead. Because even bringing Kate back at the end of season 2 didn't improve rating did it
Season 3 was when the ratings started to do better mostly because they actually gave the audience lesbian romance and putting ryan and sophie together. Ruby and her huge following was what helped bring in decent ratings in season 1 and when she left a lot of her fans left with her plus with the constant ruby vs the cw drama that happened made it worse for the show. Imo eventually batwoman's ratings were gonna drop either way even if ruby/kate was still on the show because that is what happens to all cw shows unless it's like superman and Lois or walker. But when it comes to cw shows their ratings will eventually decline and drop but they improve a lot in season 3.
I don't know...maybe i'm underestimating Ruby's influence but i remember this thread being an absolute mess when it was announced that she'd be playing Kate. And alot of us predicted it would be a disaster the second she got cast.

I also don't understand how Walker is still on the air. The prequel and Gotham Knights look terrible. And the fans are already complaining about the writing for season 2 of Superman.
:eyeroll:
da
ruby is a terrible actress and that was one of the main reasons why people didn't like her as Kate but ruby also had a big following especially from the lgbtq community and that helped i honestly think the cw realized the mistake they made to casting her when it was too late and the backlash got bad when it came to her acting. Walker has popularity because one of the actors came on supernatural which is a very popular show so people will watch even if it's bad it's one of cw top show so they won't be getting rid of it anytime soon. I haven't really heard many good things about superman and Lois recently but I guess the crazy fanboys will watch anyways regardless if the writing is getting bad. Gotham knights is gonna flop badly and what's crazy is when the trailer came out people went begging for batwoman to come back instead even the crazy fanboys were surprisingly sticking up for batwoman which rarely happens. But gotham knights is already off to a bad start even the budget looks bad
I know some fans we're rooting for another actress to play Kate...Ashley Platz?? Ruby being a bigger name certainly helped but i just couldn't see her sticking with a show for 6+years in Vancouver.

And having the SPN fans is always a bonus for the actors but they're all shit. I watched the trailer for the SPN prequel and all i could think was really? You cancelled Batwoman for this?. I was rolling my eyes at all of the comments under the Gotham Knights trailer saying that the CW somehow made a worse show than Batwoman.

The first season of Superman was ok. But the fans aren't happy with season 2 and they're blaming the writing for most of the female characters. I don't understand how insecure the Clois shippers are over Lana Lang, it's insane :blinkwide:

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 15 Jun 2022, 15:05

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I have a question. Was the show pulling in more viewers when they had Kate as the lead and went down hill when they brought in Ryan or were they going down hill when they did have Kate.as the lead. Because even bringing Kate back at the end of season 2 didn't improve rating did it
Season 3 was when the ratings started to do better mostly because they actually gave the audience lesbian romance and putting ryan and sophie together. Ruby and her huge following was what helped bring in decent ratings in season 1 and when she left a lot of her fans left with her plus with the constant ruby vs the cw drama that happened made it worse for the show. Imo eventually batwoman's ratings were gonna drop either way even if ruby/kate was still on the show because that is what happens to all cw shows unless it's like superman and Lois or walker. But when it comes to cw shows their ratings will eventually decline and drop but they improve a lot in season 3.
I don't know...maybe i'm underestimating Ruby's influence but i remember this thread being an absolute mess when it was announced that she'd be playing Kate. And alot of us predicted it would be a disaster the second she got cast.

I also don't understand how Walker is still on the air. The prequel and Gotham Knights look terrible. And the fans are already complaining about the writing for season 2 of Superman.
:eyeroll:
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ruby is a terrible actress and that was one of the main reasons why people didn't like her as Kate but ruby also had a big following especially from the lgbtq community and that helped i honestly think the cw realized the mistake they made to casting her when it was too late and the backlash got bad when it came to her acting. Walker has popularity because one of the actors came on supernatural which is a very popular show so people will watch even if it's bad it's one of cw top show so they won't be getting rid of it anytime soon. I haven't really heard many good things about superman and Lois recently but I guess the crazy fanboys will watch anyways regardless if the writing is getting bad. Gotham knights is gonna flop badly and what's crazy is when the trailer came out people went begging for batwoman to come back instead even the crazy fanboys were surprisingly sticking up for batwoman which rarely happens. But gotham knights is already off to a bad start even the budget looks bad

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by Guest » 15 Jun 2022, 09:02

Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 17:51
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I have a question. Was the show pulling in more viewers when they had Kate as the lead and went down hill when they brought in Ryan or were they going down hill when they did have Kate.as the lead. Because even bringing Kate back at the end of season 2 didn't improve rating did it
Season 3 was when the ratings started to do better mostly because they actually gave the audience lesbian romance and putting ryan and sophie together. Ruby and her huge following was what helped bring in decent ratings in season 1 and when she left a lot of her fans left with her plus with the constant ruby vs the cw drama that happened made it worse for the show. Imo eventually batwoman's ratings were gonna drop either way even if ruby/kate was still on the show because that is what happens to all cw shows unless it's like superman and Lois or walker. But when it comes to cw shows their ratings will eventually decline and drop but they improve a lot in season 3.
I don't know...maybe i'm underestimating Ruby's influence but i remember this thread being an absolute mess when it was announced that she'd be playing Kate. And alot of us predicted it would be a disaster the second she got cast.

I also don't understand how Walker is still on the air. The prequel and Gotham Knights look terrible. And the fans are already complaining about the writing for season 2 of Superman.
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by Guest » 14 Jun 2022, 18:47

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Find the differences :nervous:

I love they have found the money to miraculously produce a whole new show which is fronted by teens. Over 1 who's fanbase was rising and represented alot more people
I was checking this thread and found this post and I´m like dude that is the standard CW/WB superhero tv show poster since forever
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14 Jun 2022, 00:33
I have a question. Was the show pulling in more viewers when they had Kate as the lead and went down hill when they brought in Ryan or were they going down hill when they did have Kate.as the lead. Because even bringing Kate back at the end of season 2 didn't improve rating did it
Season 3 was when the ratings started to do better mostly because they actually gave the audience lesbian romance and putting ryan and sophie together. Ruby and her huge following was what helped bring in decent ratings in season 1 and when she left a lot of her fans left with her plus with the constant ruby vs the cw drama that happened made it worse for the show. Imo eventually batwoman's ratings were gonna drop either way even if ruby/kate was still on the show because that is what happens to all cw shows unless it's like superman and Lois or walker. But when it comes to cw shows their ratings will eventually decline and drop but they improve a lot in season 3.
Yeah they defo improved in season 3 for a mix of wildmoores romance but also ryan/javicia had really found her footing aswell so I think they should have given it a season 4 to see if they went up any more which I think they may have done as I see more and more people commenting on it now. I think the casts friendship and chemistry off screen helped the onscreen chemistry aswell

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 14 Jun 2022, 17:51

Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 00:33
I have a question. Was the show pulling in more viewers when they had Kate as the lead and went down hill when they brought in Ryan or were they going down hill when they did have Kate.as the lead. Because even bringing Kate back at the end of season 2 didn't improve rating did it
Season 3 was when the ratings started to do better mostly because they actually gave the audience lesbian romance and putting ryan and sophie together. Ruby and her huge following was what helped bring in decent ratings in season 1 and when she left a lot of her fans left with her plus with the constant ruby vs the cw drama that happened made it worse for the show. Imo eventually batwoman's ratings were gonna drop either way even if ruby/kate was still on the show because that is what happens to all cw shows unless it's like superman and Lois or walker. But when it comes to cw shows their ratings will eventually decline and drop but they improve a lot in season 3.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 14 Jun 2022, 05:13

Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 02:00
Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 01:46
Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 00:40
Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 00:33
I have a question. Was the show pulling in more viewers when they had Kate as the lead and went down hill when they brought in Ryan or were they going down hill when they did have Kate.as the lead. Because even bringing Kate back at the end of season 2 didn't improve rating did it
They brought back Kate 3/4 of the way through season 2, about 15 episodes in. By that point, a lot of Kate fans had already left the show, I believe, and regardless, viewership always drops in subsequent seasons so it would've dropped regardless of who led. An argument presented is that it might've performed better had they recast from the start of season 2 without introducing an original character to take over. I mean, we honestly can't know how things would've turned out and everyone has their unique preference and character that they liked or identified with. I feel as if it doesn't matter anymore. I think people shouldn't pit the characters and fans against each other and just appreciate what was given, that is, Kate for season 1, Ryan for seasons 2 and 3, and a brief return of Kate towards the end of season 2. ^_^
Thank you. Honestly no hate from me. I jsut asked because I was having a conversation with a Kate fan who seems to think that the show failed when they brought Ryan on board and that's why they cancelled it so I thought I would come here and ask bevause I knew I would get a non biased answer I personally think season 3 was actually starting to do better because they had finally found their groove. But that's just me. I can't comment too much on how it was with Kate as Ryan was the more interesting one for me plus I think she and sophie worked better. But yeah really appreciate it
I wouldn't consider the thread non-biased, but I tried to give a fair answer. No problem and glad you were able to enjoy the show. :hug:
Lol ok the thread favours Ryan and sophie which is great so do I but I also knew I would get as fair an answer as possible on here.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 14 Jun 2022, 02:00

Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 01:46
Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 00:40
Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 00:33
I have a question. Was the show pulling in more viewers when they had Kate as the lead and went down hill when they brought in Ryan or were they going down hill when they did have Kate.as the lead. Because even bringing Kate back at the end of season 2 didn't improve rating did it
They brought back Kate 3/4 of the way through season 2, about 15 episodes in. By that point, a lot of Kate fans had already left the show, I believe, and regardless, viewership always drops in subsequent seasons so it would've dropped regardless of who led. An argument presented is that it might've performed better had they recast from the start of season 2 without introducing an original character to take over. I mean, we honestly can't know how things would've turned out and everyone has their unique preference and character that they liked or identified with. I feel as if it doesn't matter anymore. I think people shouldn't pit the characters and fans against each other and just appreciate what was given, that is, Kate for season 1, Ryan for seasons 2 and 3, and a brief return of Kate towards the end of season 2. ^_^
Thank you. Honestly no hate from me. I jsut asked because I was having a conversation with a Kate fan who seems to think that the show failed when they brought Ryan on board and that's why they cancelled it so I thought I would come here and ask bevause I knew I would get a non biased answer I personally think season 3 was actually starting to do better because they had finally found their groove. But that's just me. I can't comment too much on how it was with Kate as Ryan was the more interesting one for me plus I think she and sophie worked better. But yeah really appreciate it
I wouldn't consider the thread non-biased, but I tried to give a fair answer. No problem and glad you were able to enjoy the show. :hug:

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 14 Jun 2022, 01:46

Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 00:40
Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 00:33
I have a question. Was the show pulling in more viewers when they had Kate as the lead and went down hill when they brought in Ryan or were they going down hill when they did have Kate.as the lead. Because even bringing Kate back at the end of season 2 didn't improve rating did it
They brought back Kate 3/4 of the way through season 2, about 15 episodes in. By that point, a lot of Kate fans had already left the show, I believe, and regardless, viewership always drops in subsequent seasons so it would've dropped regardless of who led. An argument presented is that it might've performed better had they recast from the start of season 2 without introducing an original character to take over. I mean, we honestly can't know how things would've turned out and everyone has their unique preference and character that they liked or identified with. I feel as if it doesn't matter anymore. I think people shouldn't pit the characters and fans against each other and just appreciate what was given, that is, Kate for season 1, Ryan for seasons 2 and 3, and a brief return of Kate towards the end of season 2. ^_^
Thank you. Honestly no hate from me. I jsut asked because I was having a conversation with a Kate fan who seems to think that the show failed when they brought Ryan on board and that's why they cancelled it so I thought I would come here and ask bevause I knew I would get a non biased answer I personally think season 3 was actually starting to do better because they had finally found their groove. But that's just me. I can't comment too much on how it was with Kate as Ryan was the more interesting one for me plus I think she and sophie worked better. But yeah really appreciate it

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 14 Jun 2022, 00:40

Guest wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 00:33
I have a question. Was the show pulling in more viewers when they had Kate as the lead and went down hill when they brought in Ryan or were they going down hill when they did have Kate.as the lead. Because even bringing Kate back at the end of season 2 didn't improve rating did it
They brought back Kate 3/4 of the way through season 2, about 15 episodes in. By that point, a lot of Kate fans had already left the show, I believe, and regardless, viewership always drops in subsequent seasons so it would've dropped regardless of who led. An argument presented is that it might've performed better had they recast from the start of season 2 without introducing an original character to take over. I mean, we honestly can't know how things would've turned out and everyone has their unique preference and character that they liked or identified with. I feel as if it doesn't matter anymore. I think people shouldn't pit the characters and fans against each other and just appreciate what was given, that is, Kate for season 1, Ryan for seasons 2 and 3, and a brief return of Kate towards the end of season 2. ^_^

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 14 Jun 2022, 00:33

I have a question. Was the show pulling in more viewers when they had Kate as the lead and went down hill when they brought in Ryan or were they going down hill when they did have Kate.as the lead. Because even bringing Kate back at the end of season 2 didn't improve rating did it

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 22 May 2022, 06:41

Guest wrote:
22 May 2022, 05:21
Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 16:48
Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 16:13
Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 14:10
Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 13:59
Fan reactions don’t have as much to do with television longevity as the audience is meant to believe. It’s always about the bottom line and financially Batwoman(and all the other slew of shows the CW canned)isn’t worth it, to them.
I know Meagan said they listened to the fans about wildmoore, but I don't think they will listen this time if they don't think it's worth it. It came down to the live ratings i honestly believe they did eventhough when you add dvr and streaming we actually came to just under 800k views. Plus the network that's looking to buy CW is really conservative
Think this was the ultimate deciding factor. Netflix is returning toward conservatism, too. Which is going to bite a lot of these platforms, I think. Straight white men and white people already have a lot of shows to watch and I don’t think they’re going to choose shows like GK for long.
The only part of the fandom I fit into is the lgbt part of the fandom and just having a gay superhero who's also lgbt in real life and female be the lead is not anything I had growing up either it's always been straight white men when I was growing up aswell. Yes I had my fair share of straight ships growing up but never female ones on TV L Word aside. Any female ship for me being front and centre would have been great. But growing up in late 80s into the 90s it was unheard off.

Yesh there has been shows like Supergirl that have had a same sex relationship. Ot wasn't the lead and it wasn't the main relationship it was the secondary one or thr side one..whereas with Batwoman it was the main romance and that's why I love the show. It represents me in that way. Yeah it's the only way they represent me but I still think that's important, and pulling these shows off air just ends up given them bad press. And I think that's why I still fight for it. Its always us in the mi origins that lose our shows and what replaces it another with a male lead. They can some how find the money to bring I thinkmits like 5 new shows from.the walker prequel, the supernatural prequel, my family plus another 2. All will be the same in having the main lead as a male. Or if the lead is a female the main romance is between her and a man
And unfortunately that was a network decision. They didn't want Kara to be bi.
Yeah so it was Alex who came out instead. Maggie was the LI only so was never front and centre with her relationship it was like an after thought. Don't know how well thr Alex and Kelly one was though

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 22 May 2022, 05:21

Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 16:48
Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 16:13
Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 14:10
Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 13:59
Fan reactions don’t have as much to do with television longevity as the audience is meant to believe. It’s always about the bottom line and financially Batwoman(and all the other slew of shows the CW canned)isn’t worth it, to them.
I know Meagan said they listened to the fans about wildmoore, but I don't think they will listen this time if they don't think it's worth it. It came down to the live ratings i honestly believe they did eventhough when you add dvr and streaming we actually came to just under 800k views. Plus the network that's looking to buy CW is really conservative
Think this was the ultimate deciding factor. Netflix is returning toward conservatism, too. Which is going to bite a lot of these platforms, I think. Straight white men and white people already have a lot of shows to watch and I don’t think they’re going to choose shows like GK for long.
The only part of the fandom I fit into is the lgbt part of the fandom and just having a gay superhero who's also lgbt in real life and female be the lead is not anything I had growing up either it's always been straight white men when I was growing up aswell. Yes I had my fair share of straight ships growing up but never female ones on TV L Word aside. Any female ship for me being front and centre would have been great. But growing up in late 80s into the 90s it was unheard off.

Yesh there has been shows like Supergirl that have had a same sex relationship. Ot wasn't the lead and it wasn't the main relationship it was the secondary one or thr side one..whereas with Batwoman it was the main romance and that's why I love the show. It represents me in that way. Yeah it's the only way they represent me but I still think that's important, and pulling these shows off air just ends up given them bad press. And I think that's why I still fight for it. Its always us in the mi origins that lose our shows and what replaces it another with a male lead. They can some how find the money to bring I thinkmits like 5 new shows from.the walker prequel, the supernatural prequel, my family plus another 2. All will be the same in having the main lead as a male. Or if the lead is a female the main romance is between her and a man
And unfortunately that was a network decision. They didn't want Kara to be bi.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 21 May 2022, 16:48

Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 16:13
Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 14:10
Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 13:59
Fan reactions don’t have as much to do with television longevity as the audience is meant to believe. It’s always about the bottom line and financially Batwoman(and all the other slew of shows the CW canned)isn’t worth it, to them.
I know Meagan said they listened to the fans about wildmoore, but I don't think they will listen this time if they don't think it's worth it. It came down to the live ratings i honestly believe they did eventhough when you add dvr and streaming we actually came to just under 800k views. Plus the network that's looking to buy CW is really conservative
Think this was the ultimate deciding factor. Netflix is returning toward conservatism, too. Which is going to bite a lot of these platforms, I think. Straight white men and white people already have a lot of shows to watch and I don’t think they’re going to choose shows like GK for long.
The only part of the fandom I fit into is the lgbt part of the fandom and just having a gay superhero who's also lgbt in real life and female be the lead is not anything I had growing up either it's always been straight white men when I was growing up aswell. Yes I had my fair share of straight ships growing up but never female ones on TV L Word aside. Any female ship for me being front and centre would have been great. But growing up in late 80s into the 90s it was unheard off.

Yesh there has been shows like Supergirl that have had a same sex relationship. Ot wasn't the lead and it wasn't the main relationship it was the secondary one or thr side one..whereas with Batwoman it was the main romance and that's why I love the show. It represents me in that way. Yeah it's the only way they represent me but I still think that's important, and pulling these shows off air just ends up given them bad press. And I think that's why I still fight for it. Its always us in the mi origins that lose our shows and what replaces it another with a male lead. They can some how find the money to bring I thinkmits like 5 new shows from.the walker prequel, the supernatural prequel, my family plus another 2. All will be the same in having the main lead as a male. Or if the lead is a female the main romance is between her and a man

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 21 May 2022, 16:13

Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 14:10
Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 13:59
Fan reactions don’t have as much to do with television longevity as the audience is meant to believe. It’s always about the bottom line and financially Batwoman(and all the other slew of shows the CW canned)isn’t worth it, to them.
I know Meagan said they listened to the fans about wildmoore, but I don't think they will listen this time if they don't think it's worth it. It came down to the live ratings i honestly believe they did eventhough when you add dvr and streaming we actually came to just under 800k views. Plus the network that's looking to buy CW is really conservative
Think this was the ultimate deciding factor. Netflix is returning toward conservatism, too. Which is going to bite a lot of these platforms, I think. Straight white men and white people already have a lot of shows to watch and I don’t think they’re going to choose shows like GK for long.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 21 May 2022, 14:10

Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 13:59
Fan reactions don’t have as much to do with television longevity as the audience is meant to believe. It’s always about the bottom line and financially Batwoman(and all the other slew of shows the CW canned)isn’t worth it, to them.
I know Meagan said they listened to the fans about wildmoore, but I don't think they will listen this time if they don't think it's worth it. It came down to the live ratings i honestly believe they did eventhough when you add dvr and streaming we actually came to just under 800k views. Plus the network that's looking to buy CW is really conservative

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 21 May 2022, 13:59

Fan reactions don’t have as much to do with television longevity as the audience is meant to believe. It’s always about the bottom line and financially Batwoman(and all the other slew of shows the CW canned)isn’t worth it, to them.

Re: The Batwoman Thread

by Guest » 21 May 2022, 13:47

Guest wrote:
21 May 2022, 13:11
I’m going to miss Batwoman but the #savebatwoman campaign honestly seems like a giant waste of money imo. There have been a couple of billboards and other stuff so far and idk, it reminds me of the Anne With An E campaign that I still see on twitter to this day. Those fans were buying up billboards in different countries, under every Netflix comment and trending on twitter everyday like they were dedicated af and still nothing happened with their show like it was paid dust lmao. Idk like if a network wants to pick BW up it will but seeing how so many other CW shows got sniped, I doubt that’s happening. Like the CW has fully moved on and tossed the majority of its DC/Comic collection in the trash to rebrand so I doubt they’re shopping these shows around?
It's been going since the cancellation announcement. So I would have thought there would be a pick up announcement by now.

We can't sit and do this for months and months and still not get picked. I mean if money is the issue why not shop the shows around. They could get money for the shows if they did which would surely help

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